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Red & Black cafe shows Portland officer the door, won't sell him coffee again (Oregon)
oregonLive.com ^ | 2010.0603 | Lynne Terry, The Oregonian

Posted on 06/04/2010 12:25:06 PM PDT by davidlachnicht

In mid-May, Portland police Officer James Crooker went to Southeast Portland on a patrol call. With a few minutes to spare, he decided to get a coffee.

So, he popped into the Red & Black cafe on Southeast 12th Avenue near Oak Street, bought a coffee and was heading out when a customer approached him, saying she appreciates the hard job that police officers do every day in Portland.

One of the co-owners of the cafe, John Langley, has another point of view. While the officer and customer were chatting, he walked up and asked Crooker to leave, saying he felt uncomfortable having a uniformed officer in the vegan cafe.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: anarchism; anarchy; cwii; leftuniverse; liberalkoolaid; obamavoters; oregon; twoamericas
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To: erod

While I’m not a fan of the political vegans, there are people who survive as adults on vegan meals, there are TONS of substitutes for meat and dairy products now, and even meat-eaters like myself take vitamins to supplement our requirements.

Also, there are people called vegetarians who eat dairy and eggs and you would NOT have to eat meat to get the proteins and other nutrients you can get from dairy and eggs.

Again, I don’t like a lot of the radical leftist vegan types but I think it would be wrong to totally exclude her from the menu. Would you exclude a Jew by putting pork in everything or someone with food allergies with whatever made them react? Some people are against cruelty and exploitation of animals and though I think it is carried to an absurd extreme, I don’t think it’s a particularly evil ideology either (if separated from the leftist garbage.) Keep in mind that the Jainists of India, at least the most devout, are themselves vegan or vegetarian, so it need not be political.


81 posted on 06/04/2010 1:52:44 PM PDT by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: Skywalk
I thought the colors referred to Le Rouge et Le Noir, Stendhal's novel. The Red and the Black: "The title apparently refers to both the tensions in [protagonist Julien] Sorel's character and to the conflicting choice he is faced with in his quest for success: the army (symbolized by the color red) or the church (symbolized by the color black)."
82 posted on 06/04/2010 1:55:30 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: davidlachnicht
One of the co-owners of the cafe, John Langley, has another point of view. While the officer and customer were chatting, he walked up and asked Crooker to leave, saying he felt uncomfortable having a uniformed officer in the vegan cafe.

I hope that extends to the times he's robbed or vandalized as well.

Otherwise, he's the biggest hypocrite around. Oh wait, he's a liberal.....

83 posted on 06/04/2010 1:56:11 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: davidlachnicht

What I always find ironic is that most “anarchists” wouldn’t last 3 days in a truly anarchist sociciety...


84 posted on 06/04/2010 1:56:27 PM PDT by piytar (Ammo is hard to find! Bought some lately? Please share where at www.ammo-finder.com)
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To: WayneS

Won’t SERVE the police again?? Well no doubt, the ACLU would be right on the case!!!! BWAHAHAHA


85 posted on 06/04/2010 2:02:49 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: davidlachnicht

“While the officer and customer were chatting, he walked up and asked Crooker to leave, saying he felt uncomfortable having a uniformed officer in the vegan cafe.”

I think he wears pink panties.


86 posted on 06/04/2010 2:04:03 PM PDT by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: davidlachnicht
"We've received threats," Langley said. "People have threatened to attack us and break our windows."

*smash*

"Hello, 911? Someone just heaved a brick through our front window."

"What's your address, sir?"

"I'm at the Red and Black Cafe on SE 12th."

"I see. Well, unfortunately, I'm afraid we're not very comfortable with having a uniformed officer in a vegan cafe."

*click*


87 posted on 06/04/2010 2:04:50 PM PDT by RansomOttawa (tm)
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To: rogue yam

Interesting the comments. There are a bunch of 5 star comments that all sound like they were written by the same person. They all sound alike.

What came through pretty clearly was that the officer was in uniform and the establishment didn’t have any problem with him walking in and taking his money before kicking him out.

What a bunch of money grubbing ingrates.

If they had any principles, they would have not been so eager to take his money.


88 posted on 06/04/2010 2:06:48 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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IT would be rude not to grant these comrades a thorough fisking.


89 posted on 06/04/2010 2:07:51 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (/)
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To: RJS1950
If it is against the law to refuse service in a public accomodation to say, a gay couple, a black, an asian or a transgendered person then obviously it is against the law to discriminate against cops. Any bets on whether those other groups are protected? Take them to court and make it hurt.

They didn't refuse service. They kicked him out after taking his money.

90 posted on 06/04/2010 2:08:08 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: erod
Boy, she’s in for a world of hurt this year, seeing how my family gets Thanksgiving, I’m loading everything with meat, quite possibly the dessert if I can find a way. ;)

If she's vegan, all you have to do is make sure there's milk or eggs in the desserts.

91 posted on 06/04/2010 2:12:07 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: davidlachnicht

I have read through this thread and note that almost everyone has something uncharitable to say about Portland, vegans and the Red & Black. I don’t know where the Red & Black is and I’m certainly not a vegan but in fairness you need to understand that the Portland police have earned a reputation for shooting first and asking for ID afterward. They are not highly regarded within the city. Google “Kyle Nice Portland Police” for an introduction to the ‘other side.’

I know, I know, most of the police are good guys with only a few bad apples. I fully understand that, but here in Portland we seem to either have a preponderance of bad apples or a dearth of good guys with enough balls to keep the bad ones in check. I no longer call the police. Instead, I call on my neighbors. I can trust them.


92 posted on 06/04/2010 2:25:12 PM PDT by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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To: davidlachnicht
What cracks me up is how these people love everything there is about government and tyranny except they hate the cops who are charged with enforcing all the tyrannical laws these hippie types convince their legislators to pass.

I'm sure this town has a no-smoking in restaurants and coffee shops ordinance, and these vegans love that law, but who are they gonna call when someone lights up a big stinky stogie in their shop? Their democrat congressman?

BTW if there are any Portland Freepers who smoke cigars, I think there there may be a coffee shop in Portland who won't be calling the cops on you if you choose to smoke an old smelly stogie.

93 posted on 06/04/2010 2:27:54 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: RJS1950

I wish a gay, black, Muslim cop would visit this cafe and sit at a table.


94 posted on 06/04/2010 2:28:20 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (I'm voting for Sarah Palin because she pisses off the right people.)
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To: GSWarrior

I just saw this story on the local news....in Bangor, Maine!

I tuned in late and was wondering where this happened. My first guess was Berkeley, California. Hmmm.....Portland, Oregon.....not much difference.


95 posted on 06/04/2010 2:31:26 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (I'm voting for Sarah Palin because she pisses off the right people.)
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Wow, their karma is manifesting on Yelp! ... may not seem much to most of you but Yelp! has an iPhone app that rocks -- and losing a star and a half over this is going to hurt this loser in the pocketbook, Portland is rife with vegan huts and none are particularly special...
96 posted on 06/04/2010 2:33:17 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (/)
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To: kimoajax

LOL!


97 posted on 06/04/2010 2:34:06 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: piytar
What I always find ironic is that most “anarchists” wouldn’t last 3 days in a truly anarchist sociciety...

I was thinking along the same lines.

Most, if not all of these “anarchists” are middle class posers.

These “anarchists” would soil their pants and cry for their mommies if a real member of the lumpenproletariat walked into the Red & Black cafe and committed a armed robbery.
98 posted on 06/04/2010 2:41:30 PM PDT by Ticonderoga34 (Free Obama's Birth Certificate!)
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To: davidlachnicht

Cool. Now everyone knows where to go to avoid the cops. That should be good for business, LOL.


99 posted on 06/04/2010 2:42:44 PM PDT by donna (The fruits of Feminism: Angry fathers, bitter mothers, fat kids and political correctness.)
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To: ozzymandus
BTW, this is apparently an “anarchist” hangout

Sure is. They proudly post the anarchy symbol on their website.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchy_symbol

I guess these drug-addled pukes don't understand that REAL anarchists despise all symbols. Go Figure.

100 posted on 06/04/2010 2:44:39 PM PDT by Gabrial (The Whitehouse Nightmare will continue as long as the Nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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