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MLB deciding whether to review call
sports.espn.go.com ^ | 6/3/10 | u7nknown

Posted on 06/03/2010 8:49:00 AM PDT by ICAB9USA

NEW YORK -- Major League Baseball was still deciding Thursday morning whether to review the umpire's blown call that cost Detroit Tigers pitcher Armando Galarraga a perfect game.

Commissioner Bud Selig has the power to reverse umpire Jim Joyce's missed call that came with two outs in the ninth inning Wednesday night in Detroit. Joyce ruled Cleveland's Jason Donald safe, then admitted he got it wrong.

Selig would likely consult with his top advisers before making such a ruling. St. Louis Cardinals manager Tony La Russa says the call should be overturned.

Joyce was scheduled to be back at work Thursday afternoon, umpiring at home plate in the game between the Tigers and Indians.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Michigan
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To: dead

Instant replay for close home runs, foul balls, base running, fan interference, and stolen bases.

NOT for balls / strikes.


41 posted on 06/03/2010 9:04:34 AM PDT by Col Frank Slade
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To: 1rudeboy

How exactly would instant replay on safe/out fair/foul calls ruin the game?

Seems it would greatly improve it.


42 posted on 06/03/2010 9:04:41 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: thesharkboy
Am I the only one who thinks the runner was safe because of a bobbled ball?

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You may be.

43 posted on 06/03/2010 9:04:52 AM PDT by ICAB9USA (I lost part of my middle finger .......... it almost rendered me mute. -- Rahm Emanuel)
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To: Jeff Chandler
If they reverse an umpire’s call after the game, then baseball as we know it is dead

Yes indeed, you nailed it. Baseball will go the way of Nobel awards, Pulitzer prizes, and Sammy Sousa's corked bat.

44 posted on 06/03/2010 9:05:25 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, Trust few, and always paddle your own canoe)
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To: Jeff Chandler
If they reverse an umpire’s call after the game, then baseball as we know it is dead.

That game has been dead a very long time.

This is an industry we're talking about.

45 posted on 06/03/2010 9:05:32 AM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: Retired Greyhound

It would make a slow game even slower, and unwatchable.


46 posted on 06/03/2010 9:05:34 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: sbMKE

Overturn it: The ump admitted he blew it...Baseball traditon may be sacred but so is truth!


47 posted on 06/03/2010 9:06:40 AM PDT by Dansong
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To: magritte
I am a Tiger's fan and am disapointed for Galarraga on the call, but, the ruling needs to stand. If not, where do we end it? Is there a statute of limitations on reversing calls? Wouldn't Babe Ruth have 104 Home Runs in ONE season because he hit the foul pole multiple times and it was not considered a homerun (as it is today)?

The call should stand, IMO.

48 posted on 06/03/2010 9:06:44 AM PDT by softwarecreator (I want my greenshoots!)
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To: dead
The commissioner of baseball is a god-like position. He can simply announce that this is a one-time only ruling that should not be used cited as a precedent for any other ruling. The particular circumstances of this particular blown call make it a no-brainer to correct.

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I tend to agree with that.

49 posted on 06/03/2010 9:07:03 AM PDT by ICAB9USA (I lost part of my middle finger .......... it almost rendered me mute. -- Rahm Emanuel)
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To: EyeGuy

The bad Cards call is Exhibit A for why replay is needed.

This is Exhibit B.

Replay is needed.

(The ump that blew the 1985 call received death threats for 20 years because of it. Had there been replay available to correct the call, there would have never been an issue).


50 posted on 06/03/2010 9:07:40 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: sbMKE
Apologize, reverse it and let Gallaraga fade back into obscurity.

LMAO

51 posted on 06/03/2010 9:07:52 AM PDT by ICAB9USA (I lost part of my middle finger .......... it almost rendered me mute. -- Rahm Emanuel)
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To: ICAB9USA

Are they going to look at every pitch to see if the home base ump made a bad strike call that got a batter out early, thus allowing a possible perfect game? Was the strike zone to big? Were there any other questionable calls? etc...


52 posted on 06/03/2010 9:08:49 AM PDT by BushCountry ( I spoken many wise words in jest, but no comparsion to the number of stupid words spoken in earnest)
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To: Onelifetogive; BluesDuke
It would be more interesting to award him a perfect game while leaving the hit on the record. It would create a great new trivia question. "Who is the only play ever to get a hit in a game where the opposing pitcher threw a perfect game?"

ROFL

53 posted on 06/03/2010 9:08:50 AM PDT by ICAB9USA (I lost part of my middle finger .......... it almost rendered me mute. -- Rahm Emanuel)
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To: ICAB9USA

Perfect game. My bad.


54 posted on 06/03/2010 9:08:54 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: magritte

Thanks for the explanation. If that happened, then I’d have to agree with you—bobbling the ball after the out is inconsequential. I’ll have to watch it again.


55 posted on 06/03/2010 9:10:04 AM PDT by thesharkboy (<-- Looking for the silver lining in every cloud, since 1998)
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To: BluesDuke

..... ping


56 posted on 06/03/2010 9:10:08 AM PDT by ICAB9USA (I lost part of my middle finger .......... it almost rendered me mute. -- Rahm Emanuel)
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To: Non-Sequitur; magritte; BlackElk
Been done before. George Brett's pinetar homerun comes to mind.

There is a difference between the two types of incidents. In the Pine Tar case, MacPhail ruled not that the bat didn't have too much pine tar on it, but that a penalty not allowed in the rules was applied. In this case, the acttual judgement of safe or out has nothing to do with the rules themselves, but with facts.

One could argue that one could appeal errors in law (umpire applied a non-existent penalty or made up a rule. Lets say he arbitrarily decided a team forfeited, or called a game for rain after the third inning and counted it as a complete game.) but not an error of fact (player was out but umpire erroneously calls him safe because his vision stinks.)
57 posted on 06/03/2010 9:10:19 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: thesharkboy

I don’t agree the ball was bobbled. He caught it at the very end of the mit (a “snow cone”), but the ball wasn’t moving. He only adjusted it back into the mit after touching the base at which time the batter’s out. The adjustment after that doesn’t matter.


58 posted on 06/03/2010 9:10:44 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (Man is not free unless government is limited.)
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To: Retired Greyhound

Slow it down ...... more.


59 posted on 06/03/2010 9:11:13 AM PDT by ICAB9USA (I lost part of my middle finger .......... it almost rendered me mute. -- Rahm Emanuel)
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To: ICAB9USA

Baseball umps should follow the example of good basketball officials and consult with the other umps. Just as in basketball, the closest ref does not always have the best view.


60 posted on 06/03/2010 9:11:15 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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