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Natalee Holloway Extended Discussion Thread #21
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Posted on 06/02/2010 1:42:42 PM PDT by RGVTx

This is a consolidation of the current threads on FR. It is intended to make discussion and updates easier.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526123/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2526200/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526225/posts

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To: hennie pennie; spectre

June 7, 2010 6:15 p.m. EDT

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/07/peru.murder.case/index.html?eref=ib_topstories

(CNN) — A Peruvian police report leaked Monday says the alleged victim of Joran van der Sloot was found in his hotel room on the floor, half-dressed. The report provides new details about the hours before Stephany Flores’ body was found.

Van der Sloot, who was twice arrested in connection with the disappearance of Alabama teen Natalee Holloway in Aruba in 2005, is in Peruvian custody as a suspect in the killing of Flores, 21.

According to the document, the Hotel Tac, where van der Sloot was staying, received a call from someone looking for him about 11 p.m. June 1. The receptionist forwarded the call, but no one answered. The hotel worker assumed that van der Sloot was asleep because the room key was with him and not the front desk.

About an hour later, according to the police report, the receptionist noticed that van der Sloot owed money for two nights and went up to his room, where her knocks went unanswered. The television was blaring, so the hotel employee figured he was resting, the report says.

Afterward, the hotel supervisor told the employee to go back to van der Sloot’s room and enter using a spare key. When the employee went in, she found Flores’ body on the floor, dressed in a black T-shirt and red panties, half-covered with a piece of white clothing, the police report said.

Flores was bleeding from her nose, the report said.

The hotel employee became frightened at the sight and went to alert her supervisor and the police, turning off the television and lights on her way out of the room, the report said.


801 posted on 06/07/2010 7:30:31 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy
I believe the article implies that if robbery involved, a life sentence could be in play.

I've seen that as well. As I understand it, it is the killing during an act of robbery that a life sentence is given for.

802 posted on 06/07/2010 7:31:06 PM PDT by amom (Proud Blue Star Mom of a US Army tanker)
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To: hennie pennie

I was thinking Greta would give this story maximum coverage tonight, but she isn’t.

Goodnight...


803 posted on 06/07/2010 7:32:39 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: hennie pennie

Well if CNN is right, the first reports were true, not Nasty Grace’s missing eyeballs stories.

Blood from the nose. First reports were death by broken neck, not bashed in face. Sounds correct. “white clothes” is the white sheet story of earlier. Wasn’t her skirt white?

My first guess would be she said “no” to Joran and he went into a fury. Or she was not drugged enough and fought back. Taking the money might have been an afterthought.

But the strict “motive was robbery” idea is weak, imo, as an explanation.


804 posted on 06/07/2010 7:36:16 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: spectre
when you get the time REVIEW the video of them walking AWAY from the front desk. It's hardly noticeable, but she is holding what appears to be a "clutch purse" in her right hand. It's vague, but she IS holding something small.

I reviewed it but I don't see anything in Stephany's hands here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug029-uxa1E.

Maybe you have a clearer video feed? If so link please?

805 posted on 06/07/2010 7:38:41 PM PDT by amom
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To: hennie pennie

Actually, I take that back. It could be strictly robbery, and her skirt got torn in the fight.

Though there was an early thread about him complaining to poker buddies he thought he was the “handsome type” but no girls would go out with him.


806 posted on 06/07/2010 7:43:26 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy
“white clothes” is the white sheet story of earlier. Wasn’t her skirt white?

If you take a look at the youtube link in my post just above you will see Stephany was dressed in all black. Joran was wearing a white shirt as he entered the hotel room...and a different shirt as he exited later.

807 posted on 06/07/2010 7:54:14 PM PDT by amom
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To: All; RGVTx
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808 posted on 06/07/2010 7:56:59 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: amom
I looked at the Video again. I have a very large PC Monitor. It appears about 31 to 32 seconds into the video as she is walking past the cooler and her hand is cupped revealing "something".

I'm willing to concede it's an optical illusion, since it was instant. Not that I've never been wrong before, LOL.

809 posted on 06/07/2010 7:58:43 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife )(Save the Brown Pelican)
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To: Shermy
Actually, I take that back. It could be strictly robbery, and her skirt got torn in the fight.

I didn't want to bring this up, but sense we are all adults here goes.

The list of what she had on included a sanitary napkin with blood. Maybe THAT is what set Joran off? (No further need of discussion)..Sorry to be so graphic, but it might go to the reason why Joran didn't violate her.

Be back tomorrow...sw

810 posted on 06/07/2010 8:04:02 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife )(Save the Brown Pelican)
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To: spectre

I looked again. *sigh* still don’t see it. LOL Which hand do you see it in? I’m looking for a clearer video feed.


811 posted on 06/07/2010 8:26:00 PM PDT by amom
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To: amom

The Confession

Translation by Google

The Dutchman citizen recognized the crime to the police and the prosecution. The killing was because his victim reviewing data from your laptop Joran van der Sloot confessed to the crime of the young college Stephany Flores to the experts of the Police and the Public Ministry.

More to come

http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/491307/ultimo-minuto-joran-van-der-sloot-confeso-asesinado-stephany-flores

Reply #826 on: June 07, 2010, 10:24:45 PM » http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8058.820


812 posted on 06/07/2010 8:38:09 PM PDT by amom
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To: sodpoodle
Wow, just wow -- found this at WS, and poster asks, IS Joran's brother celebrating the arrest of his older brother????

Amazing.

Incredible.

Unbelievable.

Joran's brother Valentijn partying on June 5th at Aruba's South Beach Club

Celebrating Joran's arrest????

http://www.24ora.com/gallery.html?func=detail&id=6365

What do you think??????????

813 posted on 06/07/2010 8:38:59 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

Actually I have read in a couple of places that she was beaten so bad she was missing an eye. I don’t have any links here but I can check tomorrow and see what I have saved at work.


814 posted on 06/07/2010 8:43:46 PM PDT by girlscout (Why didn't Noah swat those two mosquitoes?)
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To: amom

More (again Google translation)
The Dutchman citizen recognized the crime to the police and the prosecution. The killing was because his victim reviewing data from your laptop
Monday June 7, 2010 - 10:14 pm
(América TV)

Joran van der Sloot confessed to the crime of the young college Stephany Flores before the homicide experts from the National Police and the Attorney General.

The Dutchman admitted that struck citizen Whiplash Stephany Flores to realize that his victim was revising its laptop in which, apparently, kept information about the American girl Natalee Holloway.

This created the backlash of Joran van der Sloot when both were in the hotel room 309 of the TAC of Miraflores, the morning of May 30, reported the news on TV “News America.”

According to the confessions they had access to the news, the confessed murderer and Stephany Flores left the Atlantic City casino on Sunday at 5:15 a.m. and twenty minutes later arrived at the hotel lobby.

The report specifies that the acts of violence occurred at 8:11 am when the citizens Netherlands returned to the room after taking a coffee. Seeing Stephany Flores checked his laptop reacted violently slapped her and her fiction, the neck and killed him immediately.

To consummate the murder, Van der Sloot left the hotel at 8:56 am with all their belongings, including laptop which never left on his trip to Chile.

Now the information contained in the laptop is analyzed by the experts of the Division of High Tech Crime Police (Divindat) and then formulate the police report against the citizens Netherlands.

http://elcomercio.pe/noticia/491307/ultimo-minuto-joran-van-der-sloot-confeso-asesinado-stephany-flores

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8058.820


815 posted on 06/07/2010 8:44:47 PM PDT by amom
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To: amom; RGVTx; LucyT; STARWISE; muawiyah; JoeProBono; Shermy; stlnative; sodpoodle; girlscout; ...
Spanish sources reporting a confession by JVDS

Thank you, amom, for the posting --- I'm glad I decided to read "just one more post" before retiring.

I wonder how accurate these reports are???

Are they "real" newspapers or South American tabloids?

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8058.835;wap2

816 posted on 06/07/2010 8:48:17 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: amom

Google translation and genders often get mixed so read with that in mind.

Joran Van der Sloot confessed to killing Stephany Flores
Mon, 07/06/2010 - 22:06

Police sources revealed that the dangerous stranger crying admitted his guilt in the presence of a prosecutor and a lawyer. So, 48 hours after it was ejecting from Chile, Van der Sloot had no other to admit their heinous crime.

“I did not do it. The girl intruded into my private life, told the boy of 21, who arrived in Peru on 14 May to participate in an international tournament poker.

Thus, the truth broke through and confessed compulsive gambler who confessed anger exploded and broke his neck after the victim without permission cogiera his laptop and found out who was involved in the murder of an American.

“He had no right. And went, I was scared, we discussed and tried to escape. I took the neck and the murderer told ...”, hit in his terrifying story.

An experienced Dirincri official who took part in the interrogation revealed that the murderer be true only at 5.30 pm, having consistently denied responsibility for the crime.

Without emargo it remains to ask why not enter the room rented by the killer 309 for cleaning of rigor for three consecutive days?

The receptionist Adely Abad Marchena and eleven workers were suspected until yesterday.
http://www.larepublica.pe/sociedad/07/06/2010/joran-van-der-sloot-confeso-haber-matado-stephany-flores
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8058.820 post 837


817 posted on 06/07/2010 8:50:08 PM PDT by amom
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To: hennie pennie
I'm glad I decided to read "just one more post" before retiring.

Me too!!!

I wonder how accurate these reports are???

Me too!! LOL

Are they "real" newspapers or South American tabloids?

I've seen them both in earlier news relating to this incident and I believe them to be as accurate as any when it's breaking news.

818 posted on 06/07/2010 8:54:13 PM PDT by amom
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To: spectre; fatnotlazy; RKBA Democrat; eleni121; TigersEye; DontTreadOnMe2009; cherry; apocalypto; ...
*p*i*n*g* -->> Spanish sources reporting a confession by JVDS

Thank you, amom, for the posting --- I'm glad I decided to read "just one more post" before retiring.

I wonder how accurate these reports are???

Are they "real" newspapers or South American tabloids?

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8058.835;wap2

819 posted on 06/07/2010 8:57:43 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: RGVTx; kcvl; amom; mass55th; All
Natalee Case Discussion #835 6/6/10 - << < (174/174) ------ http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8058.865;wap2

Joran Van der Sloot confessed to the crime of Stephany Flores

The Dutchman told authorities that hit Whiplash the daughter of businessman Ricardo Flores after this review of his laptop and discovered the dark past of the subject.

The Dutchman Joran van der Sloot (23) confessed to the crime of Stephany Flores (21), daughter of businessman Ricardo Flores, last Sunday at a hotel in Lima's Miraflores district, said the area "America News."

To the police and a prosecutor told foreign Whiplash hit the girl after she reviewed his laptop and discovered the dark past of the subject.

Van der Sloot detail what has happened since the May 30 Miraflores left the Atlantic City casino next to the girl at 05:15 hours.

A few minutes later, the couple arrived at the hotel Tac and 309 entered the room. The Dutchman was treated at the reception of the establishment by Adely Abad.

At 8:10 pm, Van der Sloot went to buy coffee at a service station located on the side of the hotel and a few minutes then returned to his room.

The Dutchman said that upon entering the room found Ramirez Flores background reading on the laptop.

In this situation, she slapped the girl and then rubbed his neck, which caused the death of women.

Van der Sloot took his things and by averaging the hors 8:56 left the hotel. After hiding the victim's car began to escape to the south.

http://www.rpp.com.pe/2010-06-07-joran-van-der-sloot-confeso-ser-autor-del-crimen-de-stephany-flores-noticia_270698.html

820 posted on 06/07/2010 9:05:35 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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