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Natalee Holloway Extended Discussion Thread #21
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Posted on 06/02/2010 1:42:42 PM PDT by RGVTx

This is a consolidation of the current threads on FR. It is intended to make discussion and updates easier.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526123/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2526200/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526225/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526245/posts


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To: stlnative; hennie pennie

Did more research and found the same thing. Joran has two younger brothers.

Sorry guys;) (((((((((((blush)))))))))


181 posted on 06/03/2010 7:48:23 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: stlnative

If stephanie did fight with him, then there may be Joran’s DNA under her fingernails.


182 posted on 06/03/2010 7:49:34 AM PDT by sissyjane (Did you plug the hole yet Daddy????)
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To: hennie pennie
"I still don't believe that he planned to murder her, but that doesn't mean that I don't believe that he's a sadistic narcissistic psychopath."

I suspect he lured her to his hotel room either by drugging her or promising her something.

But Joran KNEW she had 5,000 on her and he needed money. So what happened is left to anyone's vivid imagination.

You can bet he's got a whooper to tell. The first one will be "I found her dead and ran because I knew no one would believe me".

Hope she has his DNA under her fingernails.

183 posted on 06/03/2010 7:51:50 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: worst-case scenario

JVDS should be very prominent on the Interpol most wanted list. He had better have a lot of money available to bribe government officials and police in most Asian and African countries.

I doubt that he’ll have access to a continuous large supply of money. He’ll be flagged in all casinos that he uses as hunting grounds.

The girl’s family must have more means than JVDS. They surely could pay higher bribes to grab him!


184 posted on 06/03/2010 7:53:44 AM PDT by melancholy
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To: hennie pennie

Joran...this is your mother!, "Why didn't you hide the body?". "I would have your father smack you in the back of the head if he was still alive, you freaken idiot!"
185 posted on 06/03/2010 7:56:27 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: stlnative

MOMMY, SAVE ME!
186 posted on 06/03/2010 7:59:39 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: Ax; RGVTx; ktscarlett66; rdl6989; Let's Roll
*ping* to the extended discussion thread

Say, ax -- you mentioned that conditions in Peruvian prisons are simply terrible, would you care to elaborate over here??

Thanks!

187 posted on 06/03/2010 8:00:15 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: stlnative

Uhhh Joran..."IT'S NOT NICE TO KILL!"
188 posted on 06/03/2010 8:01:30 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: stlnative

That's right folks!, Joran has done it again!
189 posted on 06/03/2010 8:04:06 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: hennie pennie
When all the stuff of Natalle’s death was reported I tought then that this little pimp did sell her to someone..There is no body..I told husband that she was sold..If this is the case I hope they make the demon pay and tell where she is..His dad was probably a part of the whole thing..I did hear on FOX this morning he was without funds,then I thought if that is the case then where is he getting the money to travel around..Yeah I can see where the demon is getting money for selling girls..Wonder how many others he has sold that no one is putting together..
190 posted on 06/03/2010 8:04:29 AM PDT by PLD (be)
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To: sodpoodle
Don't worry, geeesh, there are like five hundred gadzillion tiny details about this case; I remember the boys from the footage taken of the family, AND because I think that someone once long ago posted online somewhere or another that Joran was a bully towards the middle brother; all I remember about the middle brother was that he appeared shy to my and very overweight; the youngest was a toddler five years ago.

I can't imagine being cursed with the reputation of having Joran as your older brother; plus now the fact that they lost their father at a very early age. Besides having ANITA for a mom, they've got not much going for them, ya know?? Really PATHETIC.

191 posted on 06/03/2010 8:06:01 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: stlnative

Joran's father from the grave..."Oh chit... here we go again... ANITA!"
192 posted on 06/03/2010 8:08:16 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: stlnative

Hold on... I gotta catch my breath! (and dye my roots)
193 posted on 06/03/2010 8:10:02 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: sodpoodle
Cannot find any reference to other children of Paul & Anita Van der Sloot. Believe Urine is an only child. Thankfully.

FWIW

Valentijn Van der Sloot: Younger brother of Joran. Kept a blog on the case.

Lorenzo Van Rijn: Supposedly a bastard son of Paul van der Sloot and half-brother to Joran. Suspected of drug-trafficking. Named as being the ‘Daury’, that supposedly had helped Joran to dump Natalee’s body.
http://blogsfornatalee.com/2009/06/

A screen cap of Valentijn's blog:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/29/37748857_68d99d827e_o.jpg

194 posted on 06/03/2010 8:12:12 AM PDT by amom
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To: PLD
Very few people seemed to ever believe that she was sold, and thus is still alive.

Online cyberbullies at the first Scared Monkeys messageboards would viciously attack anyone who mentioned the possibility that she wasn't dead.

What was even worse to me, though, was that BEFORE THE DOCTOR PHIL SHOW, whenever anyone posed the idea of sexual slavery with her mom Beth Twitty, Beth would say -in essence- NO, I KNOW SHE'S DEAD AND I HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT.

That would just blow me away. There is NO way that I'd ever accept that a blood relative was dead - when NO body had been found. But... as they say, "To each, their own."

I believe that during one interview that Beth mentioned that the FBI had emphatically told her that they believed that Natalee was dead. HOWEVER, whenever one reads about sexual slavery and dungeon brothels, the idea that NH might be being held against her will -- it makes perfect logical sense.

195 posted on 06/03/2010 8:12:55 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: stlnative

BREAKING... Joran has been spotted wearing a black burka and talking in a voice that sounds like Michael Jackson's.
196 posted on 06/03/2010 8:13:53 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: stlnative

Help... My face has been stuck like this since this story first broke 5 years ago!

(Oh... how I remember the old days of this story)
197 posted on 06/03/2010 8:17:24 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: All
Stephany Flores Murder: Joran van der Sloot Suspected ---- http://refugeesunleashed.net/forum-125.html

Who'd have thought that these staunch supporters of Joran would pay any attention to his second murder?

198 posted on 06/03/2010 8:26:52 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: stlnative

Don’t forget MSNBC’s Michelle Kasinsky -— or whatever her surname is, LOL


199 posted on 06/03/2010 8:28:19 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

I do believe that within every lie are small facts, or truth which is a form of “liars glue”. (We saw that with Casey Anthony and Drew Peterson.)

e.g. In every version of Natalee’s demise, Joran always mentions disposing of her (or her body) in the ocean, from a boat and with help from another man.

see post #157 one version re; sex trafficking.

IIRC he also hinted at throwing her body from a boat with help - that sounded like help from Daddy.


200 posted on 06/03/2010 8:28:37 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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