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Natalee Holloway Extended Discussion Thread #21
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Posted on 06/02/2010 1:42:42 PM PDT by RGVTx

This is a consolidation of the current threads on FR. It is intended to make discussion and updates easier.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526123/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2526200/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526225/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526245/posts


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To: hennie pennie


161 posted on 06/03/2010 7:05:37 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: sodpoodle
No, I've never seen that story, but I do remember that during the first month that Scared Monkeys had public messageboards, that ANYONE who ever posed the idea that Natalee had been sold into sexual slavery was FLAMED unmercifully, pounced upon by multiple posters --- which behavior made me presume that said posters perhaps DID know what happened to Natalee and DID know that she was alive; elsewise, why get so angry at virtual strangers who believed the human trafficking theory.

FIVE years ago, so I don't remember much about it, it's been a long time since I read that, and I doubt those early boards were archived anywhere....

162 posted on 06/03/2010 7:08:04 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: JoeProBono
What a putrid speciman of humanity!!!

How long do you imagine it will take for PEOPLE MAGAZINE to run a long interview with him mommy, Anita van der Sloot?

163 posted on 06/03/2010 7:10:44 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

I believe she was stabbed, since most articles say that, but here is one I found that doesn’t indicate it...

The woman’s body was found face down on the hotel room floor Wednesday, abrasions on her face and body, and signs of trauma, Guardia said. He said she was clothed.

Asked if she had been asphyxiated, Guardia said he was waiting for autopsy results on the cause of death.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hP65mkhJDnoedFlSx7Qa2IAc18gAD9G3KNEO0

Also, one story I read said that they found his car with date-rape drugs in it. They also found skin under her fingernails.


164 posted on 06/03/2010 7:13:11 AM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: melancholy
The victim was very well connected and the whole affair will not be swept under the rug.

What you wrote.

The worm has turned. Joran was well connected in Aruba. This poor girl's family are "connected" big time! How often did we hear "Our Dutch laws aren't the same as yours"? Well, he couldn't have picked a worse place to commit a crime than Peru.

Behold Karma in motion.

165 posted on 06/03/2010 7:13:25 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: hennie pennie; worst-case scenario
Peru does not have the death penalty.....

I didn't know that and thank you for the correction.

He'll end up dead anyway, he murdered a well-connected person.

Eventually, they will probably "suicide him" or killed in prison by a terrible inmate, etc.

Bottom line, JVDS's time on this planet is ticking, that's for sure.

166 posted on 06/03/2010 7:13:54 AM PDT by melancholy
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To: hennie pennie
I don't know if he's a pshchopath but I do think he is totally arrogant......you become totally arrogant when your mommy and daddy let you gamble and drink and stay out at all hours when your 16 or 17 and cover for your sexual crimes and murders...

also he's narcissistic....

he won't be able to hide...he's very tall ....they'll find him....

167 posted on 06/03/2010 7:18:33 AM PDT by cherry
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To: spectre
Behold Karma in motion.

It's very fitting that what helped JVDS get away in Natalie's case, is exactly what turned against him in a "[MUCH] worse place" than Aruba.

He'll now experience the same answers that Aruba and Dutch officials gave Natalie’s poor mother and her lawyers; "OUR LAWS AREN'T LIKE YOURS!"

PS. "---" Pardon me for cannibalizing the most fitting and descriptive words from your post. :-)

168 posted on 06/03/2010 7:24:26 AM PDT by melancholy
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To: Federalist Patriot; rockinqsranch; Sacajaweau; Ev Reeman; woodbutcher1963; WellyP; Hacklehead

I believe that the inaccurate report of Joran’s suicide first occurred in an anonymous Twitter posting which bloggers ran with, but it was all a hoax.


169 posted on 06/03/2010 7:26:30 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

***It is curious that he allegedly had date rape pills with him.***

An Orwellian trick - it can be used to incapacitate a victim for any purpose: robbery, abduction etc., not just sexual advantage.
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Why is Rohypnol called the “date rape drug”?

Rohypnol has been associated with date rape, and has also been called the “Forget Pill,” “Trip-and-Fall,” and “Mind-Erasers.” In combination with alcohol, it can induce a blackout with memory loss and a decrease in resistance. Girls and women around the country have reported being raped after being involuntarily sedated with Rohypnol, which was often slipped into their drink by an attacker. The drug has no taste or odor so the victims don’t realize what is happening. About ten minutes after ingesting the drug, the woman may feel dizzy and disoriented, simultaneously too hot and too cold, or nauseated. She may experience difficulty speaking and moving, and then pass out. Such victims have no memories of what happened while under the drug’s influence.


170 posted on 06/03/2010 7:27:11 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: Jaded

You’ve been added.


171 posted on 06/03/2010 7:29:53 AM PDT by RGVTx
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To: hennie pennie
Do you think his mommy knows?


172 posted on 06/03/2010 7:31:57 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono
I wonder if her other spawn are psychopath’s also.
173 posted on 06/03/2010 7:35:36 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: RGVTx; LucyT; WellyP
The biggest newspaper in Chile is all over this! ---- http://buscador.emol.com/dispatcher.php?query=Joran%20Van%20der%20Sloot&portal=todos

Thank you, Wellyp!!

174 posted on 06/03/2010 7:35:45 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: stlnative

***I wonder if her other spawn are psychopaths also.***

Cannot find any reference to other children of Paul & Anita Van der Sloot. Believe Urine is an only child. Thankfully.


175 posted on 06/03/2010 7:40:19 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: worst-case scenario

With the girl’s father means and connections, you never know how far a vendetta would reach.

I don’t believe her family wants a trial, a conviction and life imprisonment. I’m sure they like to get their hands on him, possibly torture him and execute him.


176 posted on 06/03/2010 7:41:04 AM PDT by melancholy
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To: JoeProBono

YES, I believe that Mommy Anita knows precisely what her late husband Paulus and her son Joran did with Natalee Holloway; HOWEVER, this is simply my opinion.


177 posted on 06/03/2010 7:42:08 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: sodpoodle

No, you’re mistaken; Joran has two younger brothers.


178 posted on 06/03/2010 7:43:05 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: sodpoodle

they had 3 spawn - all boys - Joran is the oldest


179 posted on 06/03/2010 7:44:50 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: sodpoodle
Google Search: "Joran's younger brothers" ---- http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=%22joran%27s+younger+brothers%22
180 posted on 06/03/2010 7:45:49 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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