Posted on 06/02/2010 12:05:35 PM PDT by i88schwartz
Seriously, I don't get it. I see so many anti-Israel and anti-Semitic posts on the internet. Why not love our only real ally in the middle east?
I believe that Satan had a part in Adam’s downfall which is part of the creation process....
I have been enlightened by the Origin of the World...
A very interesting read...
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/origin.html
And before Adam of Light had withdrawn in the chaos, the authorities saw him and laughed at the prime parent because he had lied when he said, “It is I who am God. No one exists before me.” When they came to him, they said, “Is this not the god who ruined our work?”
He answered and said, “Yes. If you do not want him to be able to ruin our work, come let us create a man out of earth, according to the image of our body and according to the likeness of this being, to serve us; so that when he sees his likeness, he might become enamored of it.
No longer will he ruin our work; rather,we shall make those who are born out of the light our servants for all the duration of this eternal realm.”
Now all of this came to pass according to the forethought of Pistis, in order that man should appear after his likeness, and should condemn them because of their modelled form. And their modelled form became an enclosure of the light.
No matter, we aren't supposed to be here for that event.
INDEED.
Chum in the water.
Did somebody mention rapture?
Did somebody mention rapture?
No... I believe you're the first one who mentioned "rapture" ... just did a search to confirm it.
What did you want to say about it? ... :-)
Maybe you should specify what defense agreement you are talking about, and which war you are referring to?
242 and 243.
I don’t need to write notes on my hand for me to understand what they mean.
If that wasn’t referring to the rapture, I’m sure I can be corrected.
BTW - What is your opinion of the rapture? True?
Do you like the cloth covering you in colors?
Gnosticism was rooted out of Christianity as heretical and false teaching ... so it's not a good idea to try and bring it back in right now ... :-)
Gnosticism (Greek: γνῶσις gnōsis, knowledge) refers to diverse, syncretistic religious movements in antiquity consisting of various belief systems generally united in the teaching that the cosmos was created by an imperfect god, the demiurge with some of the supreme God's pneuma; this being is frequently identified with the Abrahamic God, (as opposed to the Gospel according to the Hebrews) and is contrasted with a superior entity, referred to by several terms including Pleroma and Godhead. Depictions of the demiurge — the term originates with Plato's Timaeus — vary from being as an embodiment of evil, to being merely imperfect and as benevolent as its inadequacy permits. Gnosticism was a dualistic religion, influenced by and influencing Hellenic philosophy, Judaism (see Notzrim), and Christianity; however, by contrast, later strands of the movement, such as the Valentinians, held a monistic world-view. This, along with the varying treatments of the demiurge, may be seen as indicative of the variety of positions held within the category.
The gnōsis referred to in the term is a form of mystic, revealed, esoteric knowledge through which the spiritual elements of humanity are reminded of their true origins within the superior Godhead, being thus permitted to escape materiality. Consequently, within the sects of gnosticism only the pneumatics or psychics obtain gnōsis; the hylic or Somatics, though human, being incapable of perceiving the higher reality, are unlikely to attain the gnōsis deemed by gnostic movements as necessary for salvation. Jesus of Nazareth is identified by some Gnostic sects as an embodiment of the supreme being who became incarnate to bring gnōsis to the earth. In others (e.g. the Notzrim and Mandaeans) he is considered a mšiha kdaba or "false messiah" who perverted the teachings entrusted to him by John the Baptist. Still other traditions identify Mani and Seth, third son of Adam and Eve, as salvific figures.
Whereas Gnosticism has been considered by scholars to originate as a branch of Christianity, alternate theories have proposed traces of Gnostic systems existed some centuries before the Christian Era, thus predating the birth of Jesus. The movement spread in areas controlled by the Roman Empire and Arian Goths, and the Persian Empire; it continued to develop in the Mediterranean and Middle East before and during the second and third centuries. Conversion to Islam and the Albigensian Crusade (1209–1229) greatly reduced the remaining number of Gnostics throughout the Middle Ages, though a few Mandaean communities still exist. Gnostic ideas became influential in the philosophies of various esoteric mystical movements of the late 19th and 20th centuries in Europe and North America, including some that explicitly identify themselves as revivals or even continuations of earlier gnostic groups.
In the formation of Christianity, various sectarian groups, labeled "gnostics" by their opponents, emphasised spiritual knowledge (gnosis) over faith (pistis) in the teachings and traditions of the established community of Christians. These sectarians considered the most essential part of the process of salvation to be this personal knowledge, in contrast to faith as an outlook in their world view along with faith in the ecclesiastical authority. These break away groups were branded minuth by Hebrews (see the Notzrim) and heretics by the Fathers of the early church due to teaching this type of authority rejection referred to as antinomianism. The knowledge of these sectarian groups is contested by orthodox Christian theology as speculative knowledge derived from religio-philosophical systems rather than knowledge derived from revelation coming from faith. Gnosis itself is and was obtained through understanding at which one can arrive via inner experience or contemplation such as an internal epiphany for example. For the various sectarian gnostics, gnosis was obtained as speculative gnosis, instigated by the contemplation of their religio-philosophical (Cosmological, salvational and rational) systems. These systems were pagan (folk) in origin and syncretic in nature. The gnostic sectarians vilified the concepts of a subjective creator God (Plato's demiurge) and objective creator God (one that creates ex-nihilo) as in the Judeo-Christian God (creator) and sought to reconcile the individual to their own personal deification (henosis), making each individual God. As such the gnostic sects made a duality out of the difference between the activities of the spirit (nous), called noesis (insight), and those of faith.
During the early formation of Christianity, church authorities (Fathers of the Church) exerted considerable amounts of energy attempting to weed out what were considered to be false doctrines (e.g. Irenaeus' On the Detection and Overthrow of False Gnosis). The gnostics (as one sectarian group) held views which were incompatible with the emerging Ante-Nicene community. Among Christian heresiologists, the concept of false gnosis was used to denote different Pagan, Jewish or Christian belief systems (e.g. the Eleusinian Mysteries or Glycon) and their various teachings of what was deemed religio-philosophical systems of knowledge, as opposed to authentic gnosis (see below, Gnosis among the Greek Fathers). The sectarians used gnosis or secret knowledge to reject the traditions of the established community or church. The authorities throughout the community criticized this antinomianism as inconsistent with the communities teachings. Hence sectarians and followers of gnosticism were first rejected by the Jewish communities of the Mediterranean (see the Notzrim 139–67 BCE), then by the Christian communities and finally by the late Hellenistic philosophical communities (see Neoplatonism and Gnosticism).
BTTT
If that wasn’t referring to the rapture, I’m sure I can be corrected.
I thought that since you mentioned "rapture" -- you had something to say about it ... LOL ...
BTW - What is your opinion of the rapture? True?
Well, I think a lot of your questions would be immediately answered simply by me giving you these links ... :-) I think these links get to the "basis" of all your questions, actually ...
BUT, for a thread reference that might help out with that specific question (regarding me) -- I think this thread will address quite a bit ... :-)
satan started long before Christ. He’s been trying to wipe them out since time immemorial. Way back in Gen 6, I guess you could go back that far, before there ever was a nation of Israel, per se, when the idea of a chosen line in our time dimension was just a glimmer on the horizon.
Here’s one answer of scriptural many -
1 A prophecy, the word of ADONAI concerning Isra’el - here is the message from ADONAI, who stretched out the heavens, laid the foundation of the earth and formed the spirit inside human beings: 2 “I will make Yerushalayim a cup that will stagger the surrounding peoples. Even Y’hudah will be caught up in the siege against Yerushalayim. 3 When that day comes, I will make Yerushalayim a heavy stone for all the peoples. All who try to lift it will hurt themselves, and all the earth’s nations will be massed against her. (Zech 12)
If you are smart you support Israel because they are on the frontline against the worldwide Jihad. Muslims are taking over Europe via demographics. The two big threats are China's military and the world Jihad. Iran is making inroads in Latin America. You can shrug and say "Throw Israel to the wolves" same as Obama does but I don't think it serves your purposes to live in freedom. If you want the Jihad against America to accelerate then abandon Israel. I promise you the Muslims won't love you anymore if you do. Instead they smell weakness
This is my read of how things should be done for the long term...not in the next ten minutes
Where does it say that?
Lucifer HATES Israel.....and he has millions and millions of agents and “Useful Idiots” in this world.
I think a great eagle could be significant.
“If you are smart you support Israel because they are on the frontline against the worldwide Jihad.”
Really? Worldwide, huh? Seems to me they got all they can handle being the frontline against Israel jihad.
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