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Something is Happening in Top Kill Process [LIVE THREAD]
http://www.bp.com/ ^ | 5/26/2010 | Self

Posted on 05/26/2010 1:49:19 PM PDT by Positive

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To: Vinnie

Thanks, I will ask about this tomorrow in my one-to-one appt!


41 posted on 05/26/2010 2:36:56 PM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: SaraJohnson
Cross your fangers just in case it will help.

Everyone cross their fangs...

43 posted on 05/26/2010 2:41:30 PM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: acoulterfan

Not to sound all revolutionary and wild-eyed, but you could just download that plug-in.


44 posted on 05/26/2010 2:43:12 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Yes, Chef!)
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To: Hardraade

I got mine crossed.


45 posted on 05/26/2010 2:50:48 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: F15Eagle

I don’t know what that stuff looks like when it mixes...


46 posted on 05/26/2010 2:57:37 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: acoulterfan

The video is looking at the BOP gages,etc. About 5 min ago they had a shot of the plume and while it seemed to be from a different angle than we normally see it looked reduced to me. hope. hope.

One on one is terrific. I used it. Just wait ‘til you use iPhoto, love it.


47 posted on 05/26/2010 2:58:41 PM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: Dinah Lord
BTW...I neglected to mention that my "expert professional" also said that since 125 of the crew were evacuated and "only" eleven were lost, suggests that there was an "Oh God" moment some time before the actual explosion.

I guess you don't just jump off a platform 50ft or more above the mile deep water and start swimming 165 miles from shore.

48 posted on 05/26/2010 2:59:37 PM PDT by Positive (Nothing is sadder than to see a beautiful theory murdered by a gang of brutal facts.)
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To: Positive
Sounds like something was up and that key personnel knew it!

From The WSJ:

Douglas H. Brown, Transocean's chief mechanic on the Deepwater Horizon rig, said key representatives from both companies had a heated argument in an 11 a.m. meeting on April 20. Less than 11 hours later, the well had a blowout, an uncontrolled release of oil and gas, killing 11 workers.

Mr. Brown said Transocean's crew leaders including the rig operator's top manager, Jimmy W. Harrell, strongly objected to a decision by BP's top representative, or "company man," over how to start removing heavy drilling fluid and replacing it with lighter seawater from a riser pipe connected to the well head. Such pipes act as conduits between the rig and the wellhead at the ocean floor, and carry drilling fluid in and out of the well.

Removing heavy drilling fluid prior to sealing a well is normal, but questions have emerged about whether the crew started the process without taking other precautionary measures against dangerous gas rising into the pipe.

It isn't clear what Mr. Harrell objected to specifically about BP's instructions, but the rig's primary driller, Dewey Revette, and tool pusher, Miles Randall Ezell, both of Transocean, also disagreed with BP.

However, BP was in charge of the operation and the BP representative prevailed, Mr. Brown said.

"The company man was basically saying, 'This is how it's gonna be,' " said Mr. Brown, who didn't recall the name of the BP representative in question.

50 posted on 05/26/2010 3:09:34 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: Dinah Lord

Yah, I think we should all pray this works.

Earlier the vid was of the plume, then they shifted to various ROV shots around the BOP, I can only assume they were running boring stuff while the business was being done.

Gawd, I hope this works. Fangers - CROSSED!


51 posted on 05/26/2010 3:17:03 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (US out of the UN - UN out of the US)
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To: West Texas Chuck

I hear ya. Praying AND crossing my ‘fangers’.

;^D


52 posted on 05/26/2010 3:20:55 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: F15Eagle
There's that color change again,,,

FWIW : Fox just reported that 100 miles of coast now

is oiled down,,,

Info from Bobby Jindal... That's 35 miles more that yesterday...

53 posted on 05/26/2010 3:31:59 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Thanks. You know what you are talking about. What chance to you give the procedure. If it fails, would a small nuke work?


54 posted on 05/26/2010 3:49:36 PM PDT by rogertarp
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To: Positive

“Blow Out Preventer” is something called a “ram shear”

Here is BOP’s 101.Most land rig Blow Out Preventers have 3 different components. Offshore BOP’s are really no different - just a little more sophisticated.

#1 Hydril - basically a big rubber bladder than can be inflated hydraulically around the pipe to stop a relatively low pressure event.

#2 Pipe Rams - actuated hydraulically and the two sides close around the pipe like a big clamp. Work great for higher pressure events. Use of the pipe rams require the drill pipe string to be connected to the Kelly hose (drilling mud system) or have a pipe plug inserted if the Kelly hose is disconnected.

#3 Blind Rams - again, actuated hydraulically. Typically used when there is no drill pipe in the hole (IE when tripping pipe to change a drill bit - close the blind rams while the bit changed. This keeps surprises from coming up the hole at you.) When closed, the blind rams completely close off the hole from the outside. The blinds are not typically used when pipe is in the hole. They are a last resort, flames licking my ass, close ‘em as you abandon the rig! The blind rams are designed to cut the drill pipe and close the hole.

From what I have read, the crew had “mud coming back” meaning a rise in pit level which means the gas/oil pressure is pushing mud out of the hole. This is the first and sometimes only warning a crew will get that the well is “Coming to see you!”. The crew should have closed the pipe rams and hydril instantly to shut the well in. At that point they would have had control and could have flared gas or pumped heavy weight mud back in the hole. Apparently this didn’t happen and the well blew out.

My gues is there is about 18,000 feet of drill pipe laying on the floor of the gulf and the BOP stack was destroyed. They will be lucky if they can “top kill” this well. There is nothing to tie onto and no BOP to close if they do have some success. The only way out that I can see is a releif well drilled into the existing well bore.These guys are screwed!...regards - red


55 posted on 05/26/2010 3:55:18 PM PDT by rednek ("Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.")
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To: rogertarp

Nuking it may actually make matters worse.


56 posted on 05/26/2010 3:57:38 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: rednek

****************My gues is there is about 18,000 feet of drill pipe laying on the floor of the gulf and the BOP stack was destroyed. They will be lucky if they can “top kill” this well. There is nothing to tie onto and no BOP to close if they do have some success. The only way out that I can see is a releif well drilled into the existing well bore.These guys are screwed!...regards - red**************

I never even thought of this happening. Has or will anyone admit that this has happened? If it did happen, they have a huge problem to say the least. Good luck BP.


57 posted on 05/26/2010 4:03:33 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Where is our military?)
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To: rednek
My gues is there is about 18,000 feet of drill pipe laying on the floor of the gulf and the BOP stack was destroyed.

What are you talking about? The BOP is basically intact externally and has had some defective components replaced/adjusted.

58 posted on 05/26/2010 4:05:26 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: rednek
My gues is there is about 18,000 feet of drill pipe laying on the floor of the gulf and the BOP stack was destroyed. They will be lucky if they can “top kill” this well. There is nothing to tie onto and no BOP to close if they do have some success. The only way out that I can see is a releif well drilled into the existing well bore.These guys are screwed!...regards - red

This is what I was also able to figure out. That is why I am keeping my fingers crossed. They also have gas and oil intrusion around the casing annular space. I cannot think of any other solution besides relief wells if this does not work. Finally, I do not know how the top kill is going to work without circulation.
59 posted on 05/26/2010 4:06:14 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: US_MilitaryRules

After posting what the other guy said I believe the pipe is still in the ground. There is oil coming out of it. But when they do seal it it could come flying out of the ground. WOW! Still Good luck BP.


60 posted on 05/26/2010 4:06:40 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Where is our military?)
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