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SWAT, what if he hadn't complied peacefully, it appears without a crime, they sure thought it was possible.
It is worthy of a second read. Love the idea that this may rise to "kidnapping"
If it can happen there, it can happen anywhere. I am going to call our local cops to see what the SOP is here, offering to send this article as the purpose of my inquiry.
Stunning article.
~FMC
I almost always defend the police.
Not this time. This was a violent kidnapping.
Oregon Department of Transportation
Hmmmm....A government department, go figure.
He should sue, as it sounds like his “constitutional” rights, we severely violated.
Accordingly to the Libs, Arizona has become a Nazi state.
Meanwhile, over in Oregon ...
Well, no. It's criminal conduct. And FELONY criminal conduct, at that.
Title 18, United States Code, U.S. Criminal Code Section 242:
Deprivation of rights under color of law
Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or to different punishments, pains, or penalties, on account of such person being an alien, or by reason of his color, or race, than are prescribed for the punishment of citizens, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both;
and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.
RKBA bump.
the process stipulated in the union contract
That dude needs to lawyer up and civily prosecute the Roid heads.
Dept. of Pre-Crime.
Is outraged the same as disgruntled. Don't want to be carted off by thugs.
What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts
Maybe I missed it but I didn't see anywhere in the article who alleged he was nuts or on what basis. I think everyone involved in this should lose their jobs and be barred from ever working as police officers or in any civil service job.
Anyone outraged by this article?
Outraged, livid, pissed... Liberty-raping jackboots need to be stopped, NOW!
Folks, going in I’m going to tell you that I think we have over-swat teamed ourselves to the point of absurdity. Our federal government is out of control. There are definitely some serious problems in this area.
That being said, what would have been our reaction if this department had been warned, did nothing, then this guy went out and killed people setting up a hostage situation? Wouldn’t we have been angry about that too? I am reminded of the shooter at Fort Hood.
That may be a bad example, because I believe that guy was clearly headed for trouble, and yet nobody did anything.
Isn’t it possible this guy showed some very concerning warning signals too? We’re not privy to all the information on this yet are we?
Even people with no record go off sometimes. What’s the solution to this? We had officers to up to a home up near Valencia about seven years ago, and the occupant opened fire on the officers, so you can’t just waltz up to someone’s door and try to ask them questions in all instances either.
Sounds like the minority report movie. Catch the perp before they do it.
WOW! Talk about 'profiling'. And lack of due process.
Yes, I am outraged, FMC. Sadly, my sense of outrage has been dulled over the decades by the shenanigans at all levels of law enforcement, from local police right up to the FBI, BATF, and CIA. Of course, the CIA is not chartered to act as law enforcement within the United States, but it cheerfully does so anyway.
How about this rationale?: "Hey, he looks like one of those disgruntled white male extremists! You know, the kind Janet Napoleonato warned us about."
Not being the posting police, just don't be surprised if it doesn't get the attention that it deserves.
BTTT!
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The lawyer is barking up the wrong tree with the kidnapping IMHO. They should look at Violation of Civil Rights Under Color of Law, 18 USC 242. Normal immunities don’t apply, either. Again, IMHO.