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Our Founders' Solutions for Illegal Immigration
Townhall.com ^ | May 18, 2010 | Chuck Norris

Posted on 05/18/2010 7:42:19 AM PDT by Kaslin

With his thick Austrian accent, California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger quipped in his commencement address at Emory University this past week: "I was also going to give a graduation speech in Arizona this weekend. But with my accent, I was afraid they would try to deport me."

It seems that the whole country is taking sides in the battle over the border in Arizona. Yet it truly remains the tip of the iceberg of our immigration troubles. Spurred on by the national debate, at least 10 other states are seeking to enact tougher immigration laws.

Now more than ever, we must protect our borders and sovereignty, by providing genuine solutions to the dangers of American boundary fluidity. With estimates showing that by 2060 America will add 167 million people (37 million immigrants today will multiply into 105 million then), it is imperative for us to do more to solve this crisis. Now is the time to beat the doors of change and save the boundaries and future of America.

But the federal government has failed miserably to produce a viable solution to the illegal immigration crisis. Amnesty is not the answer. And immigration laws aren't effective if we continue to dodge or ignore them. Furthermore, globalization efforts have only confused security matters, further endangering our borders and national identity -- our sovereignty. And the question that keeps coming to my mind is: How is it that we can secure borders in the Middle East but can't secure our own?

From America's birth, our Founders struggled, too, with international enemies and border troubles, from the sea of Tripoli to the western frontier. While welcoming the poor, downtrodden and persecuted from every country, they also had to protect the sacred soil they called home from unwanted intruders.

America's Founders also were concerned with properly assimilating immigrants so that their presence would be positive upon the culture. George Washington wrote, "By an intermixture with our people, they, or their descendants, get assimilated to our customs, measures, laws: in a word soon become one people." Thomas Jefferson, hailed as one of the most inclusive among the Founders, worried that some immigrants would leave more restrictive governments and not be able to handle American freedoms, leading to cultural corruption and "an unbounded licentiousness, passing, as is usual, from one extreme to another. It would be a miracle were they to stop precisely at the point of temperate liberty. These principles, with their language, they will transmit to their children. In proportion to their number, they will share with us the legislation. They will infuse into it their spirit, warp and bias its direction, and render it a heterogeneous, incoherent, distracted mass." And Alexander Hamilton insisted that "the safety of a republic depends essentially on the energy of a common national sentiment; on a uniformity of principles and habits; on the exemption of citizens from foreign bias and prejudice; and on the love of country, which will almost invariably be found to be closely connected with birth, education, and family."

According to the Declaration of Independence, "obstructing the Laws for the Naturalization of Foreigners" was one of the objections leveled against Britain that warranted the American colonists' seceding. Yet even the Founders themselves believed that a total open-door policy for immigrants would only lead to complete community and cultural chaos.

We are discussing and debating new ways to resolve the social crisis we call illegal immigration, but our Founders pointed the way more than 200 years ago. Like enrolling in an Ivy League school, American citizenship was considered and promoted by them as a high honor. James Madison shared the collective sentiment back then when he stated, "I do not wish that any man should acquire the privilege, but such as would be a real addition to the wealth or strength of the United States." Hence, they processed applicants and selected only the ones who would contribute to the building up and advancement of their grand experiment called America.

Therefore, our Founders enforced four basic requirements for "enrollment and acceptance" into American citizenry. We still utilize them (at least in policy) to this day, but we desperately need to enforce them. The Heritage Foundation summarizes: "Key criteria for citizenship of the Naturalization Act of 1795 remain part of American law. These include (1) five years of (lawful) residence within the United States; (2) a 'good moral character, attached to the principles of the Constitution of the United States, and well disposed to the good order and happiness of the United States'; (3) the taking of a formal oath to support the Constitution and to renounce any foreign allegiance; and (4) the renunciation of any hereditary titles."

Just think if such immigration tenets were taught in schools such as Live Oak High School, in Northern California, where kids are confused about allegiances to flags and countries. And just think if the federal government actually enforced such tenets! Arizona and the 10 other states following suit wouldn't even need to go out on a limb and create their own immigration laws as states did prior to our Constitution. If we held citizenship in the same high esteem as our Founders and simply enforced the laws we already have, we wouldn't be in this illegal immigration pickle today. Next week, Chuck will lay out his plan, drawing inspiration from our Founders, for dealing with the 12 million-plus illegal immigrants in our country today.


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1 posted on 05/18/2010 7:42:20 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Chuck supports amnesty.


2 posted on 05/18/2010 7:45:34 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Kaslin

We need to deport or imprison ALL illegals, seal the border and have an armed response to anyone who tries to re-cross our borders illegally.


3 posted on 05/18/2010 7:47:46 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: thethirddegree

While I agree that illegals should be deported and if necessary put in jail, what about businesses that knowingly hire illegals? Should they get away with it or should they like I think get heavily find and lose their business licenses?


4 posted on 05/18/2010 7:53:37 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: kabar
How can he after writing this?

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Therefore, our Founders enforced four basic requirements for “enrollment and acceptance” into American citizenry. We still utilize them (at least in policy) to this day, but we desperately need to enforce them. The Heritage Foundation summarizes:

“Key criteria for citizenship of the Naturalization Act of 1795 remain part of American law. These include

(1) five years of (lawful) residence within the United States;

(2) a ‘good moral character, attached to the principles of the Constitution of the United States, and well disposed to the good order and happiness of the United States’;

(3) the taking of a formal oath to support the Constitution and to renounce any foreign allegiance; and

(4) the renunciation of any hereditary titles.”

All these things are FINE but they must announce their presence here and go through our LEGAL PROCESS!

Jefferson in particular, was concerned about culture clashes and destroying the “promised land”. They sacrificed allot to have Judeo Christian principles for our land and did NOT want it over run with others that would find that repulsive.

5 posted on 05/18/2010 7:55:19 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh
But Chuck Norris seems pretty down to earth about the issue in this clip. While I don’t necessarily support his “plan”, its a breath of fresh air to hear him acknowledge that undocumented immigrants are real people who are living in this country and trying to make a better life for themselves. It stands in stark contrast to the vitriol of folks who insist that undocumented immigrants are all criminals, out to kill the “America” we know and love. Its worth noting that Chuck Norris thinks Mike Huckabee, his personal friend who he backs politically, would be open to a pathway to legalization for undocumented immigrants living in the United States.

I have read one of his books where he states that we need to offer a path to citizenship to the "undocumented workers." He is part of the "pay a fine, learn English, and get to the back of the line" crowd that don't consider this to be amnesty, which it is.

6 posted on 05/18/2010 7:59:09 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Kaslin

Cheap unfunny joke by someone who should be ashamed for even attemtping to make fun over something so serious. Arnold is such a disappointment. He has turned into a kennedy


7 posted on 05/18/2010 7:59:34 AM PDT by cubreporter
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To: Kaslin

Cheap unfunny joke by someone who should be ashamed for even attemtping to make fun over something so serious. Arnold is such a disappointment.


8 posted on 05/18/2010 7:59:51 AM PDT by cubreporter
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To: kabar
Did you read the column? Chuck Norris says clearly in the forth paragraph that amnesty is not the answer

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But the federal government has failed miserably to produce a viable solution to the illegal immigration crisis. Amnesty is not the answer. And immigration laws aren't effective if we continue to dodge or ignore them. Furthermore, globalization efforts have only confused security matters, further endangering our borders and national identity -- our sovereignty. And the question that keeps coming to my mind is: How is it that we can secure borders in the Middle East but can't secure our own?

9 posted on 05/18/2010 8:00:38 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

“I was also going to give a graduation speech in Arizona this weekend. But with my accent, I was afraid they would try to deport me.”

Was he invited somewhere? I doubt it. Otherwise he would have gone and tried to make hay while there. Arizona probably didn’t want him. Some people do anything to get a laugh, their face time on camera and attention getting “look at me, look at me” comments. Arnold is becoming pathetic. Going NO WHERE!!!


10 posted on 05/18/2010 8:02:34 AM PDT by cubreporter
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To: Kaslin
While I agree that illegals should be deported and if necessary put in jail, what about businesses that knowingly hire illegals? Should they get away with it or should they like I think get heavily find and lose their business licenses?

I agree with your solution. Make them pay for providing the incentive.

11 posted on 05/18/2010 8:04:32 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: Kaslin
Amnesty is not the answer.

It depends on what his definition of amnesty is. Obama and McCain are against amnesty. Words have meanings.

Any legislation that legalizes the status of those who broke our laws by entering our country illegally and allows them to stay is amnesty. We must not only prevent the Democrats and some moderate Republicans from hijacking the meaning of the word amnesty, but the public must be made aware about the true impact of an amnesty. The Heritage Foundation concluded that the cost of amnesty alone would be $2.6 trillion. And the number of additional LEGAL immigrants who would join those who were the recipients of amnesty through chain migration, i.e., family reunification, would approach 70 million over a 20-year period, assuming there are only 12 million illegal aliens. We cannot assimilate such numbers. An amnesty would destroy the United States of America with the stroke of a pen.

12 posted on 05/18/2010 8:04:38 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Kaslin
Until Arnold opened his mouth about his "fear" of being arrested I hadn't realized there might well be a problem with his immigration status.

He should be asked!

13 posted on 05/18/2010 8:08:36 AM PDT by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: kabar
Smells like amnesty to me, too. Chuck should do a bit more research and find that we did not have a welfare state when our Founding Fathers established this nation.

A free immigration policy instituted by a welfare state guarantees its destruction.

14 posted on 05/18/2010 8:11:30 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: MBB1984

Milton Friedman said, “You cannot simultaneously have free immigration and a welfare state.” We have both. 53% of immigrant headed households are on welfare.


15 posted on 05/18/2010 8:14:16 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Kaslin
We need to refer to pro-illegal alien people as criminal accomplices who aid, abet and support foreign nationals who are boldly violating U.S. federal laws and stealing from the public. Sneaking into a country under the radar of its border police is no different than illegal entry into someone's house. And when they come here to get on welfare they commit robbery as well as illegal entry. Taking from the public welfare system of another country, a country you are not a part of and do not legally reside in, is robbery, pure and simple, because you are causing the cost of living to rise for the general public of said country.

And when worms like Swarzenegger, (who is destroying California by ignoring illegal immigration), make jokes about Arizona's immigration law they should be asked why they themselves chose to come here legally instead of sneaking here under cover of darkness. And these pro-illegal alien politicians need to be asked why they are not working feverishly to abolish federal laws that prohibit illegal entry into the U.S. Why do they let these laws stand but chose to ignore them? I will answer my own question, it is because these rats know that abolishing immigration law will destroy our country, and they don't want you to know that is their intent.

Wealthy, affluent Hollywood types who support illegal entry into the United States can afford to be socialists and activists for criminal aliens, but the rest of us cannot.

We should have learned our lesson about electing the super rich to govern us, they are insulated from the daily rigors and strife of trying to earn enough just to live on, they have no idea of the plight of the electorate they supposedly "serve". They have long since forgotten, if they ever experienced it in the first place, about the stress, strain and anxiety of daily life. They have made it big in America and can afford to throw money around to every cause they feel is worthy, especially OTHER PEOPLE'S money.

Good God, is it ever time for a change.

16 posted on 05/18/2010 8:17:28 AM PDT by jiminycricket000
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To: Kaslin
In the early republic immigration was an issue handled by states; naturalization was considered a function of the FedGov.
17 posted on 05/18/2010 8:20:02 AM PDT by society-by-contract
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To: cubreporter
"Arnold is such a disappointment. He has turned into a kennedy"

And that's a revelation? He married into the family for gosh sake, and never was a conservative in the first place. A Hollywood actor in the Kennedy family who convinced people he was a conservative is an actor indeed. That, or people are just suckers.

18 posted on 05/18/2010 8:21:12 AM PDT by jiminycricket000
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To: muawiyah

Too late. He has an anchor wife and babies.


19 posted on 05/18/2010 8:22:47 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Kaslin
"I was also going to give a graduation speech in Arizona this weekend. But with my accent, I was afraid they would try to deport me."

He knows better than that.

So in the end, it appears Arnold is just another political whore in search of Hispanic votes. So disappointing.

sw

20 posted on 05/18/2010 8:24:42 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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