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Dad shot dead after placing Craigslist ad
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/37082569/ns/today/?gt1=43001 ^

Posted on 05/16/2010 6:09:09 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA

It was just a simple sales transaction set up via Craigslist, the Internet classified ads site. The item being offered was valuable — a 1.07-carat diamond ring, with an asking price of $1,050 — but James Sanders, a trusting man, felt there was nothing to fear.

“He’s sold different things on Craigslist,” Charlene Sanders told TODAY’s Meredith Vieira Tuesday from Puyallup, Wash.

Tragically, Charlene Sanders is a widow today and her husband, James, is dead. He died defending his family from four people who came to the house in response to his ad. They didn’t come to buy the ring; they came to steal it, along with anything else of value the family had.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: banglist; craigslist; shooting
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Hail pounds Oklahoma City as severe storms move across region Strong to severe thunderstorms are moving through Oklahoma this afternoon. Undoubtedly the result of free markets.

Characteristic-non-sequitir-libertarian "logic" alert.

Craigs-List is the is archetypal lassaize faire marketplace. Complete free of the burden of moral consideration.

I dare you to think about it.

41 posted on 05/16/2010 6:33:53 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (the five of the five is the two of the one.)
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To: the invisib1e hand; All

What do you want the Government to regulate the Internet??


42 posted on 05/16/2010 6:34:37 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Jesus Saves... Allah Kills...)
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To: the invisib1e hand

“let’s hear from the libertarians who think wholly unregulated markets are Utopia.”

Yes, this would never have happened if he’d placed an ad in the newspaper instead.


43 posted on 05/16/2010 6:35:13 PM PDT by dljordan ("His father's sword he hath girded on, And his wild harp slung behind him")
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To: the invisib1e hand; All

Why do you hate Craigslist?? If you don’t like it, don’t go there.. Plain and simple..


44 posted on 05/16/2010 6:35:45 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Jesus Saves... Allah Kills...)
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To: the invisib1e hand

And if he placed an ad on a wall at a church or community center, you’d feel the same way?


45 posted on 05/16/2010 6:36:12 PM PDT by Pulpo
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To: livius
They killed him for $1,000?

Yep, and it was a foreseeable threat. This isn't the first time something like this has been reported; a year or two ago a man was killed in Texas in connection with a CraigsList ad. In that case, the victim was the prospective purchaser, coming to pay for a used car. It was a totally bogus ad, put out there to bait some unsuspecting person into showing up at the criminals' selected location, cash in hand.

Kinda like the "wild west", huh?

46 posted on 05/16/2010 6:36:58 PM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: xzins
I’m thinking that security concerns will make a middle-man exchanger a lucrative business

We are in a related type of business...and have already served as the middleman several times for older folks who needed to sell some larger items.

47 posted on 05/16/2010 6:37:48 PM PDT by garandgal
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To: Squantos

dead-dummy-sadness ping.


48 posted on 05/16/2010 6:38:12 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: Chet 99

The focus on Craigslist seems a little silly when exactly the same thing could have happened as a result of a newspaper classified ad.


49 posted on 05/16/2010 6:38:12 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (When buying and selling are legislated, the first things to be bought and sold are legislators.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

[let’s hear from the libertarians who think wholly unregulated markets are Utopia.]

Well, we have a regulated market with police to protect us, a lot of good that did. No one has said free markets are utopia, they are just better than the alternative. And if you are unwise enough to not have your own protection in the current version of utopia, heaven help you.


50 posted on 05/16/2010 6:38:29 PM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
My Kimber Ultra goes with me everywhere I go.

Kimber's are sweet. I've been comparing 45's lately...

51 posted on 05/16/2010 6:38:40 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: livius
You were saying ...

There are things known as “cybercrimes,” that is, committed through use of the Internet.

Well, I wouldn't call that a "cyber-crime" ... I mean, the Tulsa World, here in Tulsa, Oklahoma has ads that are printed in their newspaper everyday -- and -- they are also viewable online.

That's getting a wider audience than just Craigslist, because this Tulsa paper not only has it "online" but it has it "in print" too ... :-)

In this case, you might as well call it "an automobile crime" since an automobile was a key ingredient in committing the crime ... LOL ...

Look here for "cyber crimes" ...

52 posted on 05/16/2010 6:38:57 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Chet 99

I think you’re correct. This same thing could have happened with a newspaper ad, but Craigslist is the SUV of advertising, according to the old media.


53 posted on 05/16/2010 6:39:04 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: KevinDavis
Why do you hate Craigslist??

Why do call an obervation (and one that you happen to not like) "hate?"

Clearly non-thought is the epidemic of our time.

54 posted on 05/16/2010 6:39:07 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (the five of the five is the two of the one.)
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To: utahagen
Most market regulation is for the purpose of limiting competition. However, fraud is a problem the free market really doesn't adequately address in the short term.

BTW no one I don't know and have vetted gets in my home. Craig's List is a major risk I would not take.

55 posted on 05/16/2010 6:39:42 PM PDT by JimSEA ("A deeply, deeply troubled individual" per WJC)
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To: Richard Kimball; All

The old media hates the internet.. Look for more stories in how Craigslist is bad and calls for more regulation....


56 posted on 05/16/2010 6:42:11 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Jesus Saves... Allah Kills...)
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To: Talisker

You’ll hear a lot of negative internet comments regarding the 3 inch 1911’s. Mine has been flawless for about 3600 rounds. FWIW.

Love my Kimbers. Every time I think about getting this gun or that gun, my mind always wanders back to the Kimber selection. There is just something about a 1911 which makes all other guns pale by comparison.


57 posted on 05/16/2010 6:42:19 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Thinking of using 911 for protection? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: hiredhand

Hmmmmmm...... never have liked EBay, Craiglist etc . Ripoff Incorporated !


58 posted on 05/16/2010 6:42:22 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: the invisib1e hand

You wanna ban bulletin boards???

Get a new nickname. Adam Smith is rolling over in his grave.


59 posted on 05/16/2010 6:42:39 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: the invisib1e hand

You should be banned just for being so stupid.


60 posted on 05/16/2010 6:42:45 PM PDT by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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