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To: Sherman Logan
Had they politely knocked on the door and the perp took the little girl hostage and she gets killed, the cops would be criticized for not doing a dynamic entry.It's real easy to criticize after the fact. The cops at Columbine were criticized for not charging in guns blazing, which in hindsight is exactly what they should have done.

Your post ignores too much.

First, if you are harboring a murderer and he takes you hostage, it is only your own fault. Not the police.

Second, if a killing spree is underway (Columbine), police should not wait outside for the killing to end, they should intervene.

The problem most FReepers have is that the police use aggressive, over-the-top force when surrounding and knocking would be sufficient and then those same police will standby outside and do nothing while a gunman (gunmen) kill innocents inside a building.

64 posted on 05/17/2010 5:46:13 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Looks probable that the suspect was in a different apartment than the one where the child was shot:

Godbee didn't say if the suspect in Blake's slaying was arrested in the downstairs or upstairs apartment. Godbee said, "The suspect was within the scope of our search warrant." He added that the warrant allowed police to search both units.

http://www.detnews.com/article/20100516/METRO/5160325/1409/Police-accidentally-shoot-7-year-old-girl-in-house-search

Police retract the "struggled with" claim:

The police initially claimed Jones was shot after her grandmother had an altercation with one of the officers. They now say the contact with the grandmother was incidental and the gun discharged accidentally.

http://reason.com/blog/2010/05/17/detroit-girl-7-killed-in-swat

65 posted on 05/17/2010 6:08:47 AM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: Erik Latranyi
First, if you are harboring a murderer and he takes you hostage, it is only your own fault. Not the police.

The little girl wasn't harboring anybody.

I have never seen any proof the cops knew a killing spree was in progress at Columbine.

I agree the issue is not a simple one. My primary point is that the proper course is always obvious in hindsight. Not so much at the time.

66 posted on 05/17/2010 6:12:26 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (When buying and selling are legislated, the first things to be bought and sold are legislators.)
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