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To: BuckeyeTexan

But Janice Okubo has already said that the certificate numbers were given by the state registrar on the “date filed”. There weren’t pre-numbered certificates at the hospital, which is what Mrs. Nordyke’s theory depends on.

Mrs. Nordyke’s suggestions are just grasping at straws that the HDOH has already said don’t work.

Interesting, too, that she says she never saw Ann Dunham. During a time when stays after delivery were longer and mothers visited their babies in the nursery, I would think she would have seen Ann when they were both checking on their babies - especially remembering seeing Ann because of her Black son, and especially also remembering if she saw BHO Sr, because he is such a dark man.


125 posted on 05/15/2010 1:15:10 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
...especially remembering seeing Ann because of her Black son...

Black newborns don't always look black.

134 posted on 05/15/2010 4:20:02 PM PDT by lucysmom
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To: butterdezillion

This document from the National Center for Health Statistics describes the procedures for issuing birth, death, marriage, and divorce certificates in 1961. It specifies that:

- The physician, other health professional, or hospital authority is responsible for completing the entire birth certificate in consultation with the parents and that a physician’s signature is required. That same entity then filed the birth certificate with the local office in which the birth occurred.

- The local office, which may be a local registrar or city/country health department verifies the completeness and accuracy of the information on the certificate, makes a copy, ledger entry or index for local use and then forwards the certificate to the state registrar.

- The state registrar queries incomplete or inconsistent information; maintains files for permanent reference and as the source of certified copies; develops vital statistics for use in planning, evaluating, and administering State and local health activities and for research studies; compiles health related statistics for State and civil divisions of State for use of the health department and other agencies and groups; and prepares copies of birth, death, fetal death, marriage, and divorce certficates or records for transmission to the National Vital Statistics Division.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsus/vsus_1961_1.pdf

The document also provides a wealth of information about births by state, county, city, race, age of mother, etc. etc.

It was published in 1961 so it’s probably more authoritative than anything Janice Okubo says. Mrs. Nordyke’s theory doesn’t necessarily depend on “pre-numbered” certificates. If the hospital was issued a block of certificate numbers, they could have stamped the certificate numbers on the forms themselves.


135 posted on 05/15/2010 5:53:03 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: butterdezillion

He knows this but he’s trolling again.


165 posted on 05/17/2010 5:55:46 AM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: butterdezillion
BHO Sr, because he is was such a dark man

BHO Senior died in a car wreck, IIRC a single vehicle one, in 1982. (He liked to take a nip, now and again, and again, and again.)

193 posted on 05/17/2010 3:01:27 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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