Columbia University Obama Trial Live Thread 5-14 thru 5-20

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[ETL]

You need to actually read the info I provided.

[danamco]

I did, and what has James D. Manning to do with Riverside Church???

[ETL]

Manning, either knowingly or unknowingly, is putting out disinformation to cover Obama’s involvement in the 1980s communist-led, pro-Soviet “disarmament” movement.

[danamco]

Riverside Church, hmmmm!!!

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[danamco]

It seems to me that you are totally off base or making false claim, or making distractions to the real issue, are you???

http://atlah.org/about/pastormanning.html

[danamco]

Pinging on all posts from 19 and down!!!

[ETL]

Who the hell ever said Manning had anything to do with Riverside Church?? Don't you know how to read? Riverside Church is where the KGB front Institute for Policy Studies based their pro-Soviet Union "no nukes" movement. It is also smack dab in the middle of the emergence of Black Liberation Theology (James Cone/Reverend Wright). What Manning is doing, aware or not, is covering for the fact that Obama was eyeball-deep in this movement, as his pro-Russia actions TODAY ('no nukes', 'disarmament', scrapping missile defense, etc) confirm.

From the campaign trail, February 2008...

Obama Pledges Cuts in Missile Defense, Space, and Nuclear Weapons Programs

February 29, 2008 :: News
MissileThreat.com

A video has surfaced of Presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama talking on his plans for strategic issues such as nuclear weapons and missile defense.

The full text from the video, as released, reads as follows:

Thanks so much for the Caucus4Priorities, for the great work you've been doing. As president, I will end misguided defense policies and stand with Caucus4Priorities in fighting special interests in Washington.

First, I'll stop spending $9 billion a month in Iraq. I'm the only major candidate who opposed this war from the beginning. And as president I will end it.[i.e. not win it]

Second, I will cut tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending.

I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems.

I will not weaponize space.

I will slow our development of future combat systems.

And I will institute an independent "Defense Priorities Board" to ensure that the Quadrennial Defense Review is not used to justify unnecessary spending.

Third, I will set a goal of a world without nuclear weapons. To seek that goal, I will not develop new nuclear weapons; I will seek a global ban on the production of fissile material; and I will negotiate with Russia to take our ICBMs off hair-trigger alert [they are NOT on "hair-trigger alert" now -etl], and to achieve deep cuts in our nuclear arsenals.

You know where I stand. I've fought for open, ethical and accountable government my entire public life. I don't switch positions or make promises that can't be kept. I don't posture on defense policy and I don't take money from federal lobbyists for powerful defense contractors. As president, my sole priority for defense spending will be protecting the American people. Thanks so much.

Article: Obama Pledges Cuts in Missile Defense, Space, and Nuclear Weapons Programs:
http://missilethreat.com/archives/id.7086/detail.asp

"MissileThreat.com is a project of The Claremont Institute devoted to understanding and promoting the requirements for the strategic defense of the United States."
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"I will not weaponize space"

"I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems"

2008 Pentagon Report (March 2008):
China's Growing Military Space Power
By Leonard David
Special Correspondent, SPACE.com
March 6, 2008

GOLDEN, Colorado — A just-released Pentagon report spotlights a growing U.S. military concern that China is developing a multi- dimensional program to limit or prevent the use of space-based assets by its potential adversaries during times of crisis or conflict.

Furthermore, last year's successful test by China of a direct-ascent, anti-satellite (ASAT) weapon to destroy its own defunct weather satellite, the report adds, underscores that country's expansion from the land, air, and sea dimensions of the traditional battlefield into the space and cyber-space domains.

Although China's commercial space program has utility for non- military research, that capability demonstrates space launch and control know-how that have direct military application. Even the Chang'e 1 — the Chinese lunar probe now circling the Moon — is flagged in the report as showcasing China's ability "to conduct complicated space maneuvers — a capability which has broad implications for military counterspace operations."

To read the entire publication [29.67MB/pdf], see U.S. Dept of Defense:
http://www.defenselink.mil/pubs/pdfs/China_Military_Report_08.pdf
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From the Sino-Russian Joint Statement of April 23, 1997:
"The two sides [China and Russia] shall, in the spirit of partnership, strive to promote the multipolarization of the world and the establishment of a new international order."
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/HI29Ag01.html

[ETL]

It seems to me that you are totally off base or making false claim, or making distractions to the real issue, are you???

At the heart of Manning's claims is the allegation that Obama, during the 1980s, was a CIA operative under Ronald Reagan working against the Soviets. That is absolutely INSANE. Obama's loyalties were to the Soviets and world communism.

[ETL]

Obama Espoused Radical Views in College [advocated revolution]
Steve Malzberg - WOR News Talk Radio 710 ^ | February 12, 2010 | Ronald Kessler

Posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 7:33:56 PM by ETL

Dr. John C. Drew, a grant writing consultant in Laguna Niguel, Calif., tells Newsmax he met Obama in 1980 when Obama was a sophomore at Occidental College in Los Angeles. Drew had just graduated from Occidental and was attending graduate school at Cornell University.

During Christmas break, Drew says he was at Grauman-Boss’ home in Palo Alto when Obama came over with Mohammed Hasan Chandoo, his roommate from Pakistan.

“Barack [Obama] and Hasan showed up at the house in a BMW, and then we went to a restaurant together,” Drew says. “We had a nice meal, and then we came back to the house and smoked cigarettes and drank and argued politics.”

For the next several hours, they discussed Marxism.

“He [Obama] was arguing a straightforward Marxist-Leninist class-struggle point of view, which anticipated that there would be a revolution of the working class, led by revolutionaries, who would overthrow the capitalist system and institute a new socialist government that would redistribute the wealth,” says Drew, who says he himself was then a Marxist.

“The idea was basically that wealthy people were exploiting others,” Drew says. “That this was the secret of their wealth, that they weren’t paying others enough for their work, and they were using and taking advantage of other people. He was convinced that a revolution would take place, and it would be a good thing.”

Drew concluded that Obama thought of himself as “part of an intelligent, radical vanguard that was leading the way towards this revolution and towards this new society.” ..."

Referring to Obama’s quote from “Dreams of My Father” that he associated with Marxist professors, Drew says, “What he’s not saying is that he was in 100 percent total agreement with those Marxist professors. When you understand that, Obama’s later associations and policies make more sense, including why he was taken in by Rev. Wright’s ideology.”

[ETL]

Frank Marshall Davis

From Accuracy In Media | AIM.ORG

Obama’s Red Mentor Praised Red Army
AIM Report | By Cliff Kincaid | April 30, 2008

Barack Obama’s childhood mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, a member of the Moscow-controlled Communist Party USA (CPUSA), wrote a poem dedicated to the Soviet Red Army. “Smash on, victory-eating Red Army,” he declared. He also wrote poems attacking traditional Christianity and the work of Christian missionaries.

The “Red Army” poem goes beyond hoping for the communists to beat the Nazis in World War II and hails the Soviet revolution. It says:

Show the marveling multitudes
Americans, British, all your allied brothers
How strong you are
How great you are
How your young tree of new unity
Planted twenty-five years ago
Bears today the golden fruit of victory!

http://www.aim.org/aim-report/obamas-red-mentor-praised-red-army/

[danamco]

At the heart of Manning's claims is the allegation that Obama, during the 1980s, was a CIA operative under Ronald Reagan working against the Soviets. That is absolutely INSANE. Obama's loyalties were to the Soviets and world communism.

In you "eyes" yes, but there are others who does not share your opinion. Barry was never seen during his Columbia years by anyone, so where was he then!!

You might be destined to eat crow later!!!

[Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)]

“Pinging on all posts from 19 and down!!!”

Thank you.

[danamco]

Who the hell ever said Manning had anything to do with Riverside Church??

YOU did very clearly!

As I read it, you decisively linked Pastor Manning to the Riverside Church!!:

The movement, btw, has begun anew this past May Day (again out of Riverside Church). I was at the rally in Times Square (May 2) and it was an international commie fest from beginning to end. I have tons of photos and video. Anyone helping Manning get this BS out is serving as an Useful Idiot for the communists.

[ETL]

Barry was never seen during his Columbia years by anyone, so where was he then!!

They're probably trying to hide his involvement in the pro-Soviet, communist-led "no nukes", disarmament movement. And perhaps his involvement in the Black Liberation movement out of the nearby Union Theological Seminary. The UTS is sandwiched between Riverside Church (where the KGB front, Institute for Policy Studies, based their "no nukes" mass rallies), and Columbia University. Obama, however, may not have 'technically' attended Columbia University, but rather Columbia College, an undergrad part of Columbia University located within the CU campus.

[danamco]

I don’t have any beef with your other posts, but don’t link Pastor Manning to the Riverside Church as you did, maybe unintentionally. He is NOT a Communist!!!

[ETL]

YOU did very clearly! As I read it, you decisively linked Pastor Manning to the Riverside Church!!:

I meant he is helping their radical and dangerous *mission*, whether he knows it or not. Obama was and obviously still is trying to help Russia and the ChiComs surpass us militarily. Dopey Manning is helping them cover his ties to the pro-Soviet "no nukes" movement of the 80s which the Soviets themselves helped launch from Riverside Church.

And, as I mentioned later, the Communist Party USA, ("Peace Action"/United for Peace and Justice--Judith LeBlanc, VP of CPUSA) Riverside Church "no nukes" movement has begun anew as of May 1 (May Day), 2010.

[May31st]

Do you know if anyone will have a live feed? And/or updates on twitter?

Manning says there is going to be lots of press there. Updates throughout the day would be great.

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I completely agree. I keep checking different sources to find out SOMETHING, but still no word.

Does anyone know anything yet?

[BloodnGuts]

“No one can say he didn’t write it. “

One can if they read his sophomoric gorilla poem and then compares it to the article I mention. The two are simply not written by the same person - and the same goes for his extemperaneous speeches vs the teleprompt ones.

[SaraJohnson]

Hello! Just wanted to say that you might be right - that Manning is a communist agent misleading the people supporting him - we will have to see what Manning does at his trial.

However, you make the assumption that the CIA is all one pro freedom organization. It is not. It is riddled with communists and, in fact, the left has dominated the agency for a long time. The CIA “missed” the economic hammer Reagan was putting on the Soviet Union and bad mouthed Reagan’s Soviet policy as “stupid and dangerous.” They never acknowledged it was breaking the economic back of the Soviet Union. They spent the entire time Bush was in office undermining his foreign policy as well. They are quiet as a mouse on Obama’s background...

After the fact (with the Soviets collapsed), everyone wondered “how could the CIA have missed the falling of the Soviet Empire”? They did not miss it. They were trying to derail Reagan by offering up only bad news on his politically incorrect “evil empire” strategy. They were trying to rescue the Soviet Union.

Obama could easily have been anti-American, pro communist and have been an agent of the CIA.

[SaraJohnson]

ETL makes the incorrect assumption that the CIA is/was anti-Soviet/communist and pro America and freedom/constitution. That is a wrong assumption. The CIA has been dominated by the Left for a long time. The Agency is not all one thing.