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America’s choice: Arizona or San Francisco?
The Payson Roundup ^ | May 11, 2010 | AZ State Sen. Russell Pearce, author of SB 1070

Posted on 05/11/2010 7:57:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: pcgTheDestroyer

So you call people who have had such experiences liars?

Nice job Vicar.


41 posted on 05/11/2010 9:26:32 PM PDT by Bullish (Light skinned with no negro dialect (unless I want one))
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To: pcgTheDestroyer

No you called me an ignorant liar.

Nice talkin’ to ya’


42 posted on 05/11/2010 9:28:03 PM PDT by Bullish (Light skinned with no negro dialect (unless I want one))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cut them off from the power produced at Palo Verde nuclear plant.


43 posted on 05/11/2010 9:30:26 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
San Francisco NO.
 
ARIZONA YES

44 posted on 05/11/2010 9:33:23 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!

Editorial from the primary author of SB1070.


45 posted on 05/11/2010 9:34:40 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Illegal is a Crime, it is not a Race ~)
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To: Bullish

Sorry, I feel like we must be talking past each other. Lemme try one more time: I said, “to say it’s a common thing to be stopped for no reason, beaten, and thrown into a Mexican prison is ignorant fear-mongering”. That doesn’t mean you’re a liar if it happened to you—it means that to say it’s happening on a “common” basis is ignorant of what’s actually happening in the vast majority of places in Mexico, even the majority of places right on the border.

The mess is that the problems on the border are horrendous, yet pretty tightly focused; what is actually happening in a few hotspots are extrapolated to be happening EVERYWHERE in Mexico. All I am doing is offering my own experience (unless you’re calling ME a liar—should I too be offended?) in which I didn’t get shaken down, arrested, beaten, thrown into Mexican prison, etc. That’s not just once or twice, but a number of times over the past year or so.


46 posted on 05/11/2010 9:39:55 PM PDT by pcgTheDestroyer
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To: Art in Idaho

Senator Pearce did not have the votes in the state Senate to pass the eligibility bill; so he did not bring it back up for a vote.

Maybe next session...


47 posted on 05/11/2010 9:42:21 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Illegal is a Crime, it is not a Race ~)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The big AZ for me.


48 posted on 05/11/2010 9:44:46 PM PDT by correctthought (Hippies, want to change the world, but all they ever do is smoke pot and smell bad)
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To: Rembrandt
In Phoenix, try Los Dos Molinos, but you’d better expect the food to be spicy. They don’t know how to make it “not spicy.”

Thanks. If we get a chance, we'll try it. I used to live in Tucson, so I got a lot of chances to try the good stuff. Albuquerque's got some good food, too. NM food is different, but a good different.

49 posted on 05/11/2010 9:53:17 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberal Logic: Mandatory health insurance is constitutional - enforcing immigration law is not.)
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To: pcgTheDestroyer

Ok, I’ve been to La mision many times, I’ve surfed at the beach next to La Fonda cantina, heck my friend had a house there for many years we used to stay at. It seems everyone I’ve talked to about the shakedowns have similar stories as mine. That makes me think it is a very common practice. the part about beatings and jail if you don’t pay them are true. I stopped going to Mexico about 6 yrs ago because it got so bad (it wasn’t as bad as it is now back say 20 yrs ago). I’ve been going to surf baja for about 40 yrs up until recently, so I do know what I’m talking about.

That you have never been shaken down is interesting, maybe you’re just lucky or you don’t look like an easy mark like I’ve already stated.

I don’t appreciate being called an ignorant fearmonger when I’m telling you the truth as I know it.

I hope for your sake you never find out first hand what I’m trying to warn you about.


50 posted on 05/11/2010 10:03:29 PM PDT by Bullish (Light skinned with no negro dialect (unless I want one))
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To: pcgTheDestroyer
I just haven’t seen the ubiquitous violence most US media is claiming.

You aren't driving far enough east. Try it in the Los Cruces, NM, El Paso, TX, and Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua area. Daily the local news in the Albuquerque area has stories about killings (1,400 murders in Juarez alone in 2008, more in 2009, and on track in 2010 to top that), kidnappings, drugs. You name it, it's bad.

51 posted on 05/11/2010 10:06:03 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberal Logic: Mandatory health insurance is constitutional - enforcing immigration law is not.)
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To: IYAS9YAS
You aren't driving far enough east. No, I believe it. Even less far east than that, Tecate is far more renowned for its violence than Tijuana, at least amongst the locals that I've spoken to.
52 posted on 05/11/2010 10:18:15 PM PDT by pcgTheDestroyer
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To: ccmay

That is the best idea I have heard in a while.

They (California) will not build their own power plants in California, they leave it to the “lower class” “desert dwellers” in AZ to fuel their (green) lifestyles.

Hmmmm ! Could you just imagine a “Palo Verde Nuclear Generating Station” in San Diego, Monterey, or San Francisco or even the San Joaquin Valley.

I don’t think so !!


53 posted on 05/11/2010 10:40:02 PM PDT by After Hours
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To: Bullish
I hope for your sake you never find out first hand what I’m trying to warn you about. Right on, I can certainly agree with you on that one. :-)
54 posted on 05/11/2010 10:47:03 PM PDT by pcgTheDestroyer
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To: ccmay
Cut them off from the power produced at Palo Verde nuclear plant

I've been saying that here for a long time.

The hypocrisy of the California Hippycrites is unbelievable.

But now they have to swallow their pride and admit...they depend on the Evil Arizonans for all their real necessities.

Just a bunch of shrieking Orcs in L.A.

55 posted on 05/11/2010 10:51:27 PM PDT by Regulator (Watch Out!! The Americans are On the March!! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Arizona here I come.

Swing on down to The OC and pick me up on your way, OK?

56 posted on 05/11/2010 11:28:53 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Here's a thought!! Donate to the website you are on RIGHT NOW!!)
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To: Domandred

In re: your tagline... We do NOT need the entire .gov. We need ONLY version 1.0 (1789) reinstated. If we then ensure that the Thirteenth Amendment is in place, sixteen and seventeen are jammed up Obambi’s butt and the Second taken to mean that, as in Switzerland, automatic weapons are issued to each and every household, then we might just find ourselves on the road to recovery. Throw in a return to gold and silver money, abolishment of the Federal Reserve, the drug laws, virtually all other cabinets and departments not specifically authorized by the Constitution and we’ve got the ball knocked out of the park.


57 posted on 05/12/2010 1:05:24 AM PDT by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHEREr)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Brillaint, man is a hero. Amazing how demagogic the Progressive become when someone simply asks that the laws be enforced.
58 posted on 05/12/2010 4:40:25 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run our of other peoples money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

America’s choice: Arizona or San Francisco?

Shouldn’t that read “San Fransicko?”

Outstanding article. It’s too bad that most of the opponents of the Arizona bill won’t take the time of have the interest to actually read it.


59 posted on 05/12/2010 4:53:03 AM PDT by rfreedom4u ("A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I commend State Senator Russell Pearce for setting the record straight. IMO, the only ones opposing this bill are illegals, liberals, communist, and most Dems. They are trying to turn the United States into another country all together. And, the Dems are doing it all of the future dollar and vote.


60 posted on 05/12/2010 5:23:05 AM PDT by beachn4fun (Stand up in support of Arizona!)
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