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Conservative gives the candidate he backs in California an ultimatum [Get moving DeVore]
cnn.com ^ | May, 11, 2010 | Shannon Travis

Posted on 05/11/2010 6:39:03 PM PDT by Al B.

(CNN) – A prominent conservative is issuing an ultimatum, essentially telling the candidate he supports to do better in the polls – or lose his support.

Erick Erickson, editor-in-chief of RedState.com, backs Assemblyman Chuck DeVore in the California Republican senate primary. DeVore is locked in a battle with former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina and former Rep. Tom Campbell for the right to face Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer in November.

Speaking Tuesday with CNN Chief National Correspondent John King, Erickson – a CNN contributor - said he won't support DeVore much longer if the candidate does not improve his political standing.

"Look, if Chuck DeVore hasn't gone up in the polls within two weeks significantly, I'll be with Carly Fiorina because Tom Campbell is that bad," Erickson said.

(Excerpt) Read more at politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: ca2010; chuckdevore; devore; devoree; fiorina; palin; palinforfiorina; palinfreeperping; sarahpalin
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

McCain is using her like a whore. And will toss her out when he’s done with her. If you don’t like that, you should talk to him about it.


181 posted on 05/12/2010 4:52:18 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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To: SoCalPol

No, we can thank the lemming RINO pushers who follow McCain and his sycophants over the cliff and refuse to support the conservative in the race.


182 posted on 05/12/2010 4:56:04 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"I personally don't give a crap about Fiorina"

Sad that you're prostituting yourself to her anyway.

183 posted on 05/12/2010 4:58:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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To: pissant

Best thread of the day. The air on FR smells a little cleaner already.


184 posted on 05/12/2010 4:59:41 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Tea Party. We are the party of NO! NO to more government! NO to more spending! NO to more taxation!)
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To: SoCalPol

You are particularly full of crap today.


185 posted on 05/12/2010 5:08:31 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Let me know when Hunter backs DeVore


186 posted on 05/12/2010 5:11:43 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: SoCalPol

He already has


187 posted on 05/12/2010 5:13:05 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Jim Robinson
McCain is using her like a whore.

Yep, he sure is. Which is why Palin's been writing all those Facebook notes and op-eds promoting cap and tax, amnesty, working with Dems, and supporting McCain proteges such as Mark Kirk, Trey Grayson, Kay Bailey Hutchinson, and Charlie Crist.

What's that you say? Palin's been actually going across the country supporting real conservatives like Michele Bachmann and Rand Paul, giving pro-life speeches and landing political uppercuts to Obama left and right.

Well, I guess I'll wait for you to post the thread calling Palin a RINO and zap the FReepers who support her.

188 posted on 05/12/2010 5:14:50 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Obamunism: You have two cows. The regime redistributes them and shoots you dead)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Do you have a problem with reading comprehension or are you just naturally stupid.


189 posted on 05/12/2010 5:16:49 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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To: Jim Robinson
Sad that you're prostituting yourself to her anyway.

No, I'm just saying I understand Sarah's rationale for endorsing her.

If DeVore wins I'd be happy.

190 posted on 05/12/2010 5:18:11 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Obamunism: You have two cows. The regime redistributes them and shoots you dead)
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To: Jim Robinson
Probably just naturally stupid, boss.

Whatever

191 posted on 05/12/2010 5:19:23 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Obamunism: You have two cows. The regime redistributes them and shoots you dead)
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To: pissant

Not for long. Some are backing out.


192 posted on 05/12/2010 5:21:46 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: pissant

Hunter is not on his endorsement page nor have I seen anything offical on that.


193 posted on 05/12/2010 5:23:50 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: SoCalPol

So, that means they haven’t scheduled any kind of event yet. Doesn’t change the fact that Hunter told us point blank he likes DeVore and will see what he can do to be off assistance. That’s called an endorsement.


194 posted on 05/12/2010 5:32:06 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: SoCalPol
and if it ends up Campbell v Boxer and Botoxer wins, we can thank the all or nothing crowd.

They don't understand that Boxer has defeated conservatives before. Both Matt Fong & Bruce Herschensohn were conservatives - not the "conservative enough for California" conservatives, but the real deal.

The thing about Boxer is that she'll get in your head and cast you as a right-winger. What Fong and Herschensohn did was stupidly apologize for it and that turned off conservatives. DeVore probably won't fall for it, but onsidering that his campaign lashed out at Palin for endorsing Carly, that tells you that DeVore doesn't have the temperament to run against Boxer. At least JD was smart about it and shrugged it off. Boxer wants nothing more than to run a dirty, mud-filled campaign and DeVore is the type to fall for it while ignoring the issues.

The Head FReeper can call me a RINO-pusher or Carly lover or whatever personal attacks he wants to use but facts are facts. The harsh reality clearly shows that DeVore has no money to compete in an expensive media market like CA, he doesn't have enough name-recognition, and his message has not gotten out otherwise he'd be the leader in the polls. It's time to look at the bigger picture which is to see that Campbell and Boxer are defeated.

195 posted on 05/12/2010 5:39:37 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Obamunism: You have two cows. The regime redistributes them and shoots you dead)
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To: rbmillerjr
So, though we are conservatives primarily, the reality is that the GOP is our conduit to the WhiteHouse and the Majority.

My reality is that I don't vote for candidates that I don't want to occupy the office. I always vote. I don't ever hold my nose and vote.

My reality is that political philosophy trumps partisan affiliation. Party does not matter. Party is not an allegiance.

All politics are local. With rare exception, national representatives held local or state wide office prior to their aspiration to emerge onto the national scene. The grass roots are the incubators. The grass roots are where this forum aims.

Conservatives who aim to worm they way into the White House through a partisan conduit are on a fools errand.

The futility of the logic is best demonstrated by a recent disaster: An angry little white man manipulated the partisan system, emerged as an artificial plurality candidate, browbeat his bewildered partisan base and received a paltry few votes when the electorate, across the political spectrum, was yearning for substantive leadership. The angry little man continued to muddle and the electorate cast their fate with the better sound bite; the Magic Negro, a slick, Chi-town hustler.

196 posted on 05/12/2010 5:42:39 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Amerigomag

“Conservatives who aim to worm they way into the White House through a partisan conduit are on a fools errand.”

Reagan seemed to do a great job of using the GOP to get to the WH. He was conservative.

I think maybe you didn’t understand my post?


197 posted on 05/12/2010 5:52:55 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Palinphobia has, for 20 months, been the one constant among liberals in America.")
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Look, Carly failed at HP, then she tried to land a gig as VP running mate with McCain and didn’t make the cut, then she became his campaign “finance/economy guru” and we all know what a failure that was, next she tried to run for governor of California, but couldn’t make the cut, and so now tries to run for the senate and is failing at that. She burned through HP’s capital, burned through McCain’s capital and is now burning through her own capital. She’s an airhead feminist boob and a statist RINO in way over her head and anyone who watches her can spot it a mile away. But she’s got twenty million of HP’s capital to to burn, so burn it already. And When she’s all burned out then that’s the end of it. Buh bye, boob.


198 posted on 05/12/2010 5:54:19 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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To: Jim Robinson

Have They Forgotten 9/11? Five Republicans and Chuck DeVore Want Us Out of Afghanistan

by Gregory Hilton
March 11, 2010 ·

By a vote of 356-65, the House of Representatives last night rejected a resolution to begin troop withdrawals from Afghanistan within the next 30 days, and to have all troops out by the end of the year.

The sponsor was Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) of the Progressive Caucus, and five isolationist Republicans crossed over to join the liberals.

The GOP cut-and-run crowd includes Congressmen Ron Paul (TX), John Duncan, Jr, (TN), Tim Johnson (IL), John Campbell (CA) and Walter Jones (NC). Afghanistan is the central front against extremism, but Rep. Paul said Americans were engaged in “nothing more than empire building.

The Taliban didn’t launch an attack against the United States. The Government of Afghanistan didn’t launch it.” He called the U.S. liberation of Afghanistan, “illegal, immoral, unconstitutional and illegitimate”. He said the war is nothing more than a foreign occupation.

One of the most prominent Republicans in the 2010 elections is Assemblyman Chuck DeVore. He is seeking the GOP U.S. Senate nomination to oppose ultra-liberal Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA). He also claims to be “very conservative,” but says he has been greatly influenced by the views of Ron Paul and the libertarians.

DeVore and Boxer are firm opponents of the Obama surge, and DeVore says the plan is a “a recipe for strategic failure.” DeVore believes it is not necessary to “employ conventional forces” in Afghanistan.

These lawmakers have apparently forgotten what happened to America on 9/11. It was the Taliban who gave Osama bin Laden the safe haven which allowed him to plan the attacks. If we pulled out now it would allow the Taliban to regain control and al Qaeda would have carte blanche to once again run terrorist training camps and plan new attacks against the United States and our allies.

This would pose a significant and grave risk to our national security, and all Americans would be in danger. No enemy was ever vanquished, and no victory was ever secured by running away. Those who wish to destroy the United States would surely follow us.

If we are beaten in Afghanistan they would be eager to attack us wherever we go. The cut-and-run crowd does not understand if we retreat unilaterally and quit, the war will not be over.

Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-CA), a Marine who served in Afghanistan, said last night,

Our enemies will continue to attack us whether or not we continue the battle against them. Our troops would return home with one question: Why? Why would you bring us home when victory was so close? Why did we fight so hard, make so many sacrifices, only to have those that believe in peace at any price say it’s time to quit? Now is not the time to retreat.

This enemy is real and it must be defeated. Do the critics really want the return of a nightmarish tyranny? Although they have far to go, the Afghan people have made demonstrable progress.

If America pulled out now all of the improvements we have seen would disappear. Afghans would no longer be allowed to vote. The Taliban would rule by the edict of terror, and political dissidents would be murdered. Women would once again be non-citizens, young girls would be kicked out of school and they would be forbidden to read.

One of the principal reasons we have been spared a repeat of 9/11 is that U.S. forces quickly toppled the Taliban regime which was protecting the terrorists. The Taliban and al Qaeda were driven out of their safety zone and into the remote mountains. Years of constant U.S.

military pressure have forced them to turn their attention from planning more attacks against our homeland to fighting for their own survival.

Afghanistan is today the epicenter of terrorism, and President Obama has wisely responded with a 34,000 troop surge. A new strategy was announced by General McChrystal, the commander of the U.S. and international forces, on December 1st.

This strategy is effective and is already leading to key victories. It makes no sense to pick up and leave when we’re winning and crushing blows are being inflicted on the enemy.

Our armed forces have begun a 12- to 18-month campaign to defeat the Taliban. We are witnessing the first major joint NATO-Afghanistan military operation in southern Helmand province, which is considered a strategic fulcrum for ridding the nation of the Taliban. One third of the troops are from the Afghan National Army.

American troops are working side by side with their Afghan counterparts. They took back the city of Marja in three weeks. They are making the Afghan people their number one priority, which is the basis for this counterinsurgency strategy. Furthermore, Pakistan’s army is now engaged and they have 147,000 troops closing in on the terrorists.
Victory is close, but we have not obtained it yet.

Abandonment and retreat — those are not strategies. We stay because it’s in our interest to stay and secure a victory against the enemies of the world. Listed below are statements from some prominent leaders regarding the importance of America’s role in Afghanistan.

“This is not the time to turn our backs on the Afghan people. This is no idle danger. No hypothetical threat. In the last few months alone, we have apprehended extremists within our borders who were sent here from the border region of Afghanistan and Pakistan to commit new acts of terror, and this danger will only grow if the region slides backwards and al Qaeda can operate with impunity........

“I was in Kandahar. It was in Kandahar that the 9/11 attacks were planned. It was in the training camps in eastern Afghanistan where the initial preparation of the attackers was carried out before they went to Hamburg and flight schools in the U.S.

“It is important to recall the seriousness of the mission and why it is that we are in Afghanistan in the first place and why we are still there after years and years of hard work and sacrifice that have passed. . . . We’ve got to show that we are in this; that we are going to provide sustained, substantial commitment.” — General David Patraeus, Central Command ..............

“A hasty withdrawal could lead to a national security disaster in the form of Taliban rule in Kabul and safe haven for Al-Qaeda.

I am keenly aware that even if we remain in Afghanistan — and here I want to emphasize this — there is s no guarantee we will prevail in our fight against Al-Qaeda. But if we don’t try, we are guaranteed to fail.” — Chairman Howard Berman (D-CA), House Foreign Affairs Committee


199 posted on 05/12/2010 6:16:23 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: SoCalPol

It’s really funny that the Democrats are now ferocious warriors. Must be because their leader General Obama is such a genius in military nmatters.


200 posted on 05/12/2010 6:28:50 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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