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Worst-Paying College Degrees
Yahoo ^ | 10 May, 2010 | Charles Purdy

Posted on 05/10/2010 2:55:41 PM PDT by throwback

There's no denying the value of a college education: According to recent U.S. Census surveys, the median salary for college grads is more than $20,000 higher than that of people with only a high school diploma. And the unemployment rate for people with bachelor's degrees is almost half the rate for people without.

But some degrees are worth more than others, as PayScale.com shows in its 2010 report on the earning power of bachelor's degrees.

(Excerpt) Read more at hotjobs.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: highereducation; jobs; lowpay; topten
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To: donaldo
That degree would probably qualify you to be an obama supreme court nominee.
101 posted on 05/10/2010 4:57:43 PM PDT by Tail Gunner John
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To: throwback

Have you ever noticed that Columbia is the leader in all of the wussiest academic areas?

Social work, journalism, education...


102 posted on 05/10/2010 5:01:20 PM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for, it matters who takes office.)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine; Taylor
>>So what exactly does a power plant operator do??

Knows what to do with something like this:

I worked a couple quarters as a co-op engineering student in what was at the time the world's largest coal-fired powerplant. An experienced operator knows all the equipment behind all those gauges and switches, and what do do when things to wrong.

103 posted on 05/10/2010 5:10:47 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
I think studying women is wonderful. I’ve been doing it for almost fifty years and have found it very rewarding. Confusing at times, but rewarding. "I agree."

Dear Lord Man!

104 posted on 05/10/2010 5:12:37 PM PDT by Taylor (The 2nd Amendment is the "reset" button on the constitution.)
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To: meyer
If employers were wise, they'd develop a standardized test, something like the SAT, that could be given to high school graduates that would score them on important subject material such as math, english, science, history, and perhaps vocational ability. I can see such a test superceding the high school diploma at some point, given that the high school diploma is no indication that the graduate has actually mastered 12th grade material.

What I noticed that was interesting were the professional certifications that are becoming more important. For example, I'm an HR manager for my company. I took and passed the exam called a PHR (professional human resource), it tested me on the body of knowledge that an HR person could reasonably expect to know to keep her boss from getting sued by doing something stupid in violation of the labor laws. I do not have a bachelor's degree in HR (actually you have to get a masters - shudders in horror).

But by passing it, I prove to prospective employers (not that I'm looking boss!) I actually know what I'm talking about. In Houston, having that certification in more important than having the degree.

105 posted on 05/10/2010 5:14:39 PM PDT by RikaStrom (Pray for Obama - Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few; and let another take his place of leadership.")
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To: FreedomPoster
Knows what to do with something like this:

The first think one is taught in the control room is "Don't Touch ANYTHING"! That looks so typical of the plants I've been in, but I'd be hard-pressed to describe the function of all of the controls. I suppose it would help if I could read the labels. I recall that in some places, the steam control room was separate from the electrical control room. Others had the entire unit control consolidated into one room. Different philosophy at the time of construction, I guess.

Looks to be 1960's to 1970's era equipment.

106 posted on 05/10/2010 5:26:54 PM PDT by meyer (Big government is the enemy of freedom.)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine
The style of power plant we are refering to is a "Rankine cycle plant". This entails taking extremely pure water, heating it until in converts to steam (saturated steam), adding additional heat until the steam is superheated, and admitting the steam into a turbine (the steam is generally 1000 deg f and 2400 psig at this point).

The steam flows through the turbine much like air blows through a pinwheel, until nearly all of the energy is used up in the steam and the cool steam is converted back to water, where the process starts all over again.

The entire point of spinning the tubine is to turn the generator which is attached to the same shaft as the turbine.

This is obviously a gross over-simplification of an elaborate and complex process. To answer your question, Power Plant Operators operate the hundreds of pieces of equipment associated with generating electricity, 24-7.

107 posted on 05/10/2010 5:29:33 PM PDT by Taylor (The 2nd Amendment is the "reset" button on the constitution.)
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To: McLynnan
I fully expect my daughter to make more than I do at my degree'd "professional" job...very soon.

She's a go getter...

She's been graduated from her school now since Jan. She's wowing the salon she's started at...and cutting hair for some big "name" people, in L.A.

She's been published ( as the hair stylist..) in at least one magazine...and won quite a few awards. I am very proud of her...but would have never envisioned this as her profession.

She likes to hunt and fish..with me. LOL!!

Thanks-

108 posted on 05/10/2010 5:33:54 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: FreedomPoster
Great Photo!

Virtually every plant has removed these old panel boards and replaced them with DCS systems (distributive control system, which is basically a computer controlled system where the operator uses a mouse instead of all of the controls in the picture).

109 posted on 05/10/2010 5:35:56 PM PDT by Taylor (The 2nd Amendment is the "reset" button on the constitution.)
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To: meyer
" I recall that in some places, the steam control room was separate from the electrical control room. Others had the entire unit control consolidated into one room. Different philosophy at the time of construction, I guess. "

You are correct sir. In the 70's, plants went to a single contol room design instead of a seperate switchboard/fireroom design.

110 posted on 05/10/2010 5:39:42 PM PDT by Taylor (The 2nd Amendment is the "reset" button on the constitution.)
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To: MediaMole

I think I could pass the final exam for a master’s degree in “Antiquated Agricultural Practices”. Where do I go to get my sheepskin?


111 posted on 05/10/2010 5:49:51 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: Billthedrill

Was this the guy in your old neighborhood?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6iLe6RV9EE


112 posted on 05/10/2010 6:06:17 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: Roklok

A few years ago I read a report in a business magazine saying that the ability to communicate clearly was the single most sought after skill and the hardest to find. That probably means you don’t learn that in communications classes.

I don’t know how much truth there was in that report but I am certain that the ability to communicate clearly is indeed rare. I suspect that it is something that you are born with rather than something that is learned in school.


113 posted on 05/10/2010 6:14:49 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: throwback

Gee, what is the difference between a degree in Fine Arts and Wine FArts? Answer: One letter and the location of the F.


114 posted on 05/10/2010 6:18:33 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Obama makes me miss Jimmah Cahtah!)
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To: Kozy

I have studied women for over sixty years, I didn’t realize you needed to go to school for it though.


115 posted on 05/10/2010 6:19:16 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: throwback

BS wasn’t good enough for her. She had to master it.


116 posted on 05/10/2010 6:19:30 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: throwback

Glad to see philosophy didn’t make the list. I didn’t try to make a career of it, settled on nuclear weapons effects instead. I mean, physics is just being able to do some math, sheesh how tough is that?


117 posted on 05/10/2010 6:22:02 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: RipSawyer
I didn’t realize you needed to go to school for it though.

Hands on experience beats theoretical knowledge in a lot of fields.

118 posted on 05/10/2010 6:23:04 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP!)
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To: Taylor
You are correct sir. In the 70's, plants went to a single contol room design instead of a seperate switchboard/fireroom design.

That change is illustrated in the Eastlake Power Plant in Eastlake, Ohio. Units 1 through 4 were built in the 1950's and 1960's, while Unit 5 was added in 1973 or so. Units 1-4 have a single electric control room, which also controls the high voltage switchyard. Plus, there are IIRC 2 steam control rooms on the other side of the turbine floor, with controls for 2 units in each. Unit 5 has a consolidated control room.

Last time I was in the plant, Unit 5 had some sophisticated (for the time) computerized control system installed (Network 90, I think was the name of the system). It was quite a machine.

119 posted on 05/10/2010 6:27:23 PM PDT by meyer (Big government is the enemy of freedom.)
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To: JoeFromSidney

Actually, he’s probably headed into writing books supporting whatever theories he thinks works in the classroom- and that means citing loads of statistical studies and repeating “the mean” over and over. None of which will be of any use in the classroom to guys like me.


120 posted on 05/10/2010 6:32:04 PM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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