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Stock Selloff May Have Been Triggered by a Trader Error
cnbc ^ | 05/06/2010 | CNBC.com

Posted on 05/06/2010 1:58:32 PM PDT by Newton

In one of the most dizzying half-hours in stock market history, the Dow plunged nearly 1,000 points before paring those losses in what possibly could have been a trader error.

According to multiple sources, a trader entered a "b" for billion instead of an "m" for million in a trade possibly involving Procter & Gamble [PG 60.75 -1.41 (-2.27%) ], a component in the Dow. (CNBC's Jim Cramer noted suspicious price movement in P&G stock on air during the height of the market selloff. Watch.)

Sources tell CNBC the firm in question that handled the erroneous trade is Citigroup [C 4.04 -0.14 (-3.35%) ]. The bank said it has no evidence of a bad trade but is investigating the situation.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dow; plunge; stocks
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To: Newton

Oh, yeah. Numeric information is routinely entered into computer forms in textual format. Makes complete sense.


41 posted on 05/06/2010 2:30:50 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast (Obama: running for re-election in '12 or running for Mahdi now? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi])
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To: Newton

Can you say LAWSUIT!!! If an error made people sell stock...well this opens a really big door


42 posted on 05/06/2010 2:31:44 PM PDT by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: Newton

I don’t believe this explanation for one second. Those firms should all have software to check for input errors like that and stop them from being sent into the market. My trading workstation has that kind of software and it’s just a java-based workstation from a firm where anyone can set up an account. I have it set to stop any trades greater than 200 shares and ask me for confirmation on any share amounts above 200. That way I can’t accidentally type in 2000 instead of 200.

Someone is spreading BS rumors on Wall Street. This looks more like a breakdown in orderly functioning of market maker firms. I’ve seen a great deal of that behavior before in the first 15 minutes of the day, but never to this extent in the middle of the day.


43 posted on 05/06/2010 2:33:12 PM PDT by your local physicist (Don't blame me. I wasn't fooled by anyone. I crossed my fingers and voted for McCain.)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

In most brokerage houses, million dollar transactions often go through intermediate traders for approval. A billion dollar trade would likely trigger alerts to someone. I also find it hard to believe that this was an accident.

The Obama Regime is doing their damnedest to take down the capitalist free market system, and it’s entirely too coincidental that there have been problems lately. I just know it in my gut that there are orders coming from the WH to fudge numbers to make the market look bad. It gives Obama talking points and buttresses his arguments. Otherwise, he would have no warrant to speak to.

This stinks to high Heaven! When this Regime is out of DC, I hope for full Congressional inquiry into involvement in private industry and potential charges for treason and espionage.


44 posted on 05/06/2010 2:35:09 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: unkus

Soros was busy shorting P&G. :)


45 posted on 05/06/2010 2:37:47 PM PDT by JimSEA ("A deeply, deeply troubled individual" per WJC)
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To: rarestia

Thank you for pointing that out, they always give excuse calculated on what they think the average Joe can/would understand if it we’re him in their shoes (as if that would/had or will ever happen).


46 posted on 05/06/2010 2:38:51 PM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: JimSEA

Orobably.


47 posted on 05/06/2010 2:43:07 PM PDT by unkus
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To: rarestia

I believe I heard earlier that Citibank is coming out and saying that it was not a result of any mistakes.


48 posted on 05/06/2010 2:44:07 PM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: Yo-Yo

LOL

now THAT is funny


49 posted on 05/06/2010 2:47:27 PM PDT by QualityMan (Extremism in the pursuit of liberty is no vice.)
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To: Newton

This is nonsense. You don’t enter trades with the words million or billion you use actual digits. Maybe he entered three too many zero’s but this article is worded wrong.


50 posted on 05/06/2010 2:47:46 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts soooo good!)
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To: Newton

Gee...thought they had software to flag errorneous orders. I know my broker’s software does—have saved me more than once. And my trades never exceeed $50K.


51 posted on 05/06/2010 2:49:25 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: Newton
HOGWASH
52 posted on 05/06/2010 2:52:56 PM PDT by JimBobWay
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To: Newton
HOGWASH
53 posted on 05/06/2010 2:53:15 PM PDT by JimBobWay
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To: Newton

By any chance, was any white male trader in his 40’s seen changing his shirt in an alley somewhere near the Exchange?


54 posted on 05/06/2010 2:58:04 PM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: Newton

Yeesh....quite a difference between BILLION and MILLION if that was indeed what sparked the error.


55 posted on 05/06/2010 3:00:02 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Send a contribution to FreeRepublic! Every dollar helps!)
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To: JimBobWay

Yeah, I read the article to my husband and that’s his reaction too. S&P 500 emini’s traded 3 million yesterday.

Would an order entry system even accept an order in the billions?


56 posted on 05/06/2010 3:05:24 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Send a contribution to FreeRepublic! Every dollar helps!)
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To: Newton

Latest on Drudge says CITI bank says it wasn’t them.

Another article speculates on someone hacking the trade computer to make outlier short trade.

Cyberterrorism writ large?

Fire sale?

Does anyone in Washington or NYC have a clue?


57 posted on 05/06/2010 3:09:37 PM PDT by anymouse (God didn't write this sitcom we call life, he's just the critic.)
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To: American72
Are you writing a newsletter today?!?!

Yes, it will be sent later on this evening.

58 posted on 05/06/2010 3:09:47 PM PDT by politicket (1 1/2 million attended Obama's coronation - only 14 missed work!)
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To: Newton
...a trader entered a "b" for billion instead of an "m" for million..

Whatever - like the guy in "airplane" who unplugs a cord and all the runway lights go out?

load of crap

59 posted on 05/06/2010 3:20:24 PM PDT by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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To: Newton

Marvelous.


60 posted on 05/06/2010 3:25:23 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government -- Thomas Paine)
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