Posted on 04/29/2010 7:59:16 PM PDT by blam
Glenn Beck's Ratings Collapse
Gillian Reagan
Apr. 29, 2010, 4:15 PM
Is Glenn losing his edge? Maybe not.
Fox News' Glenn Beck might be a one-man $32 million media empire (books, radio shows, tours and more!) but what's going on with his marquee Fox News show?
The Los Angeles Times' Joe Flint reports that News Corp.-owned Fox News cable news ratings are still high above the competition. But Glenn Beck's total number of viewers are down by almost 30%, from 2.9 million in January to 2.1 million in April.
Glenn might not be the rising ratings juggernaut month to month, like he has always been. But he's still a powerhouse in the 5 p.m. timeslot. As Joe writes, "the decline in his audience has hardly made a dent on the lead he enjoys for his 5 p.m. festival of emotions. His rivals should hold off a little on popping the Champagne."
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Here's how the other cable news personalities are doing, year over year, in April:
April 09- April 2010 in the 25-54 demo:
* Fox News' Bill O’Reilly– down 3%
* MSNCB's Rachel Maddow – down 8%
* Fox News' Greta Van Sustren – down 13%
* Fox News' Sean Hannity – down 17%
* MSNBC's Chris Matthews – down 23%
* MSNBC's Headline News – down 26%
* MSNBC's Keith Olbermann – down 28%
* CNN's Wolf Blitzer – down 37%
* CNN's Campbell Brown – down 39%
* CNN's Anderson Cooper – down 41%
* CNN's Larry King – down 46%
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I think your first post is correct. About six months ago,I turned off the news and no longer can tolerate it. I read print but even that is hideous.
We are in information/dissention/fear overload.
Me too. I download Levin’s podcast every day. I am out of the country and I can catch Savage streaming in the mornings and I will listen to him occasionally because I dig his anger. Admittedly, I have started to listen to Alex Jones, whom I used to think was crazy, but I think it’s pretty clear we are in a the midst of a globalist coup.
I have the same exhaustion. How many times can I say and feel outraged, shocked, dismayed, disbelieving.
The strategy of overwhelming is effective.
Throwing in the towel on it all is tempting. Some days you just want peace, your garden and quiet.
I hate what those bastards are doing to this country. I have never felt this strong about any political issue or group gefore. I hate them with a burning hate and that is hard to sustain.
Agreed.
People may not like to hear how bad things are, but that’s the reality. And his assembly of the jigsaw puzzle that is our corrupt government has been outstanding.
And going from 2.9M to 2.1M, considering it’s spring time, is not a surprise for a 5PM show. He’s still blowing away his rivals on the other networks.
I agree.
The Left wins by uniting disparate groups who may not even support one another’s agenda...just to have a common representative who promises to give each group what they want.
Meanwhile, we, the true majority, cannot vote as a single bloc because we destroy our candidates and those who are on our side trying to help the cause.
We really need to get our act together.
Beck’s show is too much one talking head doing a lot of lecturing. He needs to find a better way to communicate what his lectures are trying to get across.
His other problem, of course, is his time frame. He’s in a rotten time slot, and that was due to catch up to him after the novelty wore off. (Also, it’s spring/summer and that time slot is even worse.)
FoxNews would have done itself a favor flopping Shep Smith and Glen Beck, but they wouldn’t listen to many others who thought the same.
Beck will probably float down to some reasonable size viewership that’s still very large, and then he should relook at the format and make it more user friendly for a long-term viewing audience.
I agree. Its the same reason I stopped reading some conservative blogs too. All doom and gloom. A focus on how Republicans are screwing up and how the Dems legislative agenda is inevitable. Coupled with abstract calls to “fight” and “resist.” There is not focus on a constructive program to get us out of this mess.
I, for one, am tired of the endless stories from Beck and others about how the Republicans “blew it” on this or that. Perhaps they did but that doesn’t help me figure out how to roll back the destructive Dem programs and finally reign in government.
WINNER!
bookmark.
Beck jumped the shark on the birth certificate.
He’s on a slow spiral downward now.
Beck has done well exposing connections and the big picture with corruption in government.
Pardon my ignorance, but how does one get the commercial-free playback? Is that through a podcast? I truly can’t STAND all the commercials. I think it’s even worse on Hannity’s radio show. He literally comes back from commercial for about 30 seconds and goes directly back into a commercial sometimes! It’s so maddening!
> I think your reply sort of touches on a direction I’ve wondered he may be going. His show has for along time had a strong Judeo-Christian undertone, but over the last year or so, it’s almost become prosthelytizing. I wonder if his course correction is to slowly move toward prosthelytizing toward his flavor of faith?
While his religion was always there, it was more in the background. Now it’s moved to the foreground. I don’t know if he’s going to get more specific about it as to which denomination. I think he probably wouldn’t do that, which would be even more narrowing.
I know he thinks that the loss of religion in gov’t is a major if not ‘the’ cause of the problems, so I don’t seem him changing unless his ratings fall completely out the bottom and even then he may not care. He’s almost said that on occasions.
And there is imo, another factor - his alcoholism. A person is less likely to let go of or more to the point, hold on to that thing that has ‘saved their life’. It could be any denomination, any religion or something else entirely, depending on the person. That is going to tone the direction he goes, and I think he ‘fills in’ that as a solution to the US as it was a solution for him. Not saying it wasn’t either. Just don’t think that right now, it’s the approached needed to get out from under the socialism and fascism we’re experiencing more almost daily now.
I make no differentiation between socialism and fascism as economies - and I don’t automatically tie the nazi experience onto a fascist economy. Rand said it best:
“Both “socialism” and “fascism” involve the issue of property rights. The right to property is the right of use and disposal. Observe the difference in those two theories: socialism negates private property rights altogether, and advocates “the vesting of ownership and control” in the community as a whole, i.e., in the state; fascism leaves ownership in the hands of private individuals, but transfers control of the property to the government.
Ownership without control is a contradiction in terms: it means “property,” without the right to use it or to dispose of it. It means that the citizens retain the responsibility of holding property, without any of its advantages, while the government acquires all the advantages without any of the responsibility.
In this respect, socialism is the more honest of the two theories. I say “more honest,” not “better”—because, in practice, there is no difference between them: both come from the same collectivist-statist principle, both negate individual rights and subordinate the individual to the collective, both deliver the livelihood and the lives of the citizens into the power of an omnipotent government—and the differences between them are only a matter of time, degree, and superficial detail, such as the choice of slogans by which the rulers delude their enslaved subjects.”
So since ownership is the exclusive control of the use and disposal of property, then ‘control’ of the property through regulation (ie. fascism) ends up being ‘ownership’ (ie. socialism) without the deed.
To get back to a Constitutional Republic we need to take control back - reduce regulation, taxes, spending. And none of that requires ‘faith, hope and charity’. Reason, reality and free enterprise would go further to promote to all people religious and those that aren’t as religious.
I used to listen to Savage when I was driving home from work. Haven’t in quite awhile. Levin has got it all in my opinion. Stay safe overseas.
Beck does a great job educating the non-FReepers out there, people who used to have jobs and were never as obsessive or observant of politics as we here are. AFAIC, he's Alinskying the Alinskyites with some of the best street theater since the 60s/70s.
He's at his best when he's doing real history and/or exposing scoundrels and commies. But I repeat myself.
> Glenn Beck has INFORMATION that NO ONE ELSE COVERS!!!
You’re right. The one thing that made him different than Rush to some extent but esp. Hannity and others, is that he stepped out of the Left/Right scale. He went more basic to the roots of our system. He’s not likely to ‘blame’ the recent oil spill on Obama where Hannity will be working hard to make that link. It’s what Hannity does. It’s why he has his panel - to keep that Left/Right thing going. _That_ to me is much more ‘tiring’ than Beck ‘lecturing’ (even though I know the stuff cold).
And we are no longer dealing with the Left, we’re dealing with Marxists that used to scare the Dems although they tolerated them to get their votes. Many of them would never go as far as Obama wants to go - although they’ll be dragged along regardless. (some of course are willing accomplices). But some would like to go back to the Right/Left squabbles. Obama stepped outside that and so did Beck. And it was a right move on Beck’s part, he was living rent free inside Obama’s head. Now he’s in church.
Big Bump to that!
I agree.
Watching Beck has been an education and I am old enough to have had a good education, have lived through the past 67 years and remember it correctly and, as an information junkie, thought I understood much of what was going on. However, Beck has been able to inform me in detail on a current basis and I am appreciative.
FWIW, I think the birther issue is a sidetrack and will never accomplish the overthrow of zerO, even if it is proved byond reasonable doubt. A plurality will continue to say:”So what?” And that, IMO, is why the savvier media personalities have avoided it.
As for religion, IMO, again, Beck and others who harp on this are using history as a guide. There were revivals in the past when this nation and others (think of the Orthodox populations in the former Soviet satellites) were in rebellion. A religious revival that is not being micromanaged by the politicos would become a binding force for revolutionaries and would also give people something solid upon which to base their actions. It will also give some spine to non-violence and history indicates that organized, non-violent civil disobedience has a chance of working. If nothing else, it will expose the “my way or die” fascists as the thugs that they are and remove their excuses for imposing martial law. Not that they need excuses, but they still need justification and a peaceful resistance doesn’t provide that.
Yes, we are all overwhelmed. Yes, the Byzantine machinations of the political and economic class are exhausting to comprehend. Yes, we all want positive solutions, but what if there is only 1) a spiritual renewal, 2) non-violent civil disobedience and 3) preparedness as viable routes out of this mess?
Personally, I have learned much from Beck and if he is imperfect, so be it. So am I and so are we all. How else can anyone quickly bring a plurality up to speed? How else are older people who simply don’t have a chance in a SWAT/martial law scenario or those who have exhausted their assets over the past two years going to manage a resistance?
I personally don’t expect to outlive the totalitarians and I do expect some sort of unofficial CWII. I need faith, I have no chance of succeeding in armed action against more than 1-2 stupid looters and just being stubborn and refusing to acquiesce to tyranny while keeping some sort of moral high ground is about all I can envision as a path with some hope of success. Meanwhile, being prepared means we are not starving, sick, weakened slaves who will grab at any government carrot to save ourselves.
So, Beck has my eyeballs and I can use his information. I would feel a loss if he was stopped. I am comforted that perhaps 20% of his daily audience is seeing and hearing real critical thinking, as well as new information, on a daily basis. If even half of those go one to research Beck’s information (which is about 85% accurate and only about 15% hysteria), that could easily be the fraction needed to resolve this with the ballot box. We need everyone to understand what is happening, why, and who benefits.
He lost viewers when he played side kick to O’Stupid. He even joined Stupid in calling for a VAT tax on Americans. Is he still doing the Big Bill/little boy side kick number?
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