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you actually think that thousands of men just marched for a thousands miles to fight at the end to free the black man?

I seriously doubt it was the battle cry of the union army... but from Lincoln's perspective, the union could not survive WITH slavery.

have you read where Lincoln says that he has no intention to free slaves and that the purpose to go to war was to preserve the union and not free slaves?

No I have not read where he said that. Surely you have a source to quote or refer me to.

If he said it, then I can see where his argument was simply defining the justification for war vs a federal police action to enforce the slavery ban. There would be a major difference there. When the states themselves at top governmental levels oppose the federal government, the only recourse available to the federal government IS war... HOWEVER... had the federal government's cause not been just (i.e. not about slavery), then the union army soldiers may not have been willing to fight.

And of course finally, if it was not about slavery, then where was it allowed after the civil war? If Lincoln didn't free the slaves, then who did?

"And of course finally, if it was not about slavery, then where was it allowed after the civil war? If Lincoln didn't free the slaves, then who did?"

You miss the point. Lincoln didn't start The Civil War to abolish slavery. He tossed that one in to keep it going. Do a little reserch on the matter.

...to enforce the slavery ban.

What slavery ban are you talking about? Could you please document what slavery ban this country went to war about? Please be very specific....dates, quotes, etc., if you don't mind.

here you go some of his comments
I declare that I have no purposes directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.

“If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do

will say then that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races - that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And in as much as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.– Abraham Lincoln 1858

his famous speech was not to free slaves but to use slavery as two things, as a moral issue as the north was pissed off with war
2. because Europe was thinking about recognising the south as a country but would not if slavery was the top issue and Lincoln made it as such