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To: BenKenobi

“If SoCons are intent on restoring traditional roles (most aren’t nearly as strong in their support of that as they think) then they must understand that a patriarchal system in the old style is the only way that will happen and enabling feminism at any level is a recipe for the kind of society divided against itself that we currently face.”

You’ve got most of us mixed with someone else. I’m a socon and I agree with the biblical principles that a man is supposed to be the head of his household, as Christ is the head of the Church.

“chivalry as a concept by which we abide”

Ahh, take a chair with the radfems. The radfems despise chivalry because they believe that treating women with the appropriate respect is wrong.

Chivalry is essential to tearing down radical feminism. If a lady is treated properly by her boyfriend in the first place then she isn’t going to be a fertile ground for feminist ideals later on.

Chivalry makes radical feminism useless because it exposes the lie that women are mistreated and helpless.


33 posted on 04/19/2010 3:50:13 PM PDT by BenKenobi ("we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be")
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To: BenKenobi
If a lady is treated properly by her boyfriend in the first place then she isn’t going to be a fertile ground for feminist ideals later on.

You're right ... and even more important, if a girl and her mother are treated well by her father, she's not going to be open to radical feminist propaganda.

37 posted on 04/19/2010 4:20:00 PM PDT by Tax-chick (There's a perfectly good island somewhere.)
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To: BenKenobi

You don’t understand the point. Chivalry now manifests itself in behavior that reinforces the worst social pathologies that are being cultivated in women in contemporary society.

Meaning, you get echoes of chivalric behavior when men support laws to “help women” that are actually codifying feminine superiority.

Why do you think many feminist lawyer groups are AGAINST reform of alimony laws, changing child custody (shared parenting, etc) and other equalizing measures? Because, while they may ridicule ‘chivalry’ in interpersonal relations, they are for its installment as a legal regime and many SOCon politicians fall right in line BECAUSE they still entertain CHIVALRIC notions of femininity, sexual virtue, and male protectiveness over females.

Also, what is the “consent to each step of the process” mode of sexual thinking but a legalistic, distorted version of chivalry? Same thing with SoCon and RadFem alliances on pornography (Though there are ‘sex-positive’ feminists these days who are the opposite, IN SOME respects)

Dispense with these precepts, for they are being used to make war against your sons. BTW, they also make your sons look weak to women and turn them into husbands who will be left. But hey, don’t worry about the destruction of wealth when your son gets divorced, the taking of his children even when he wants them and the high depression and suicide rates.

Don’t confuse chivalry with “dominance,” “leadership” of the couple or “alphaness.” There was a time you could blend them but very few can get away with that now.


40 posted on 04/19/2010 5:34:59 PM PDT by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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