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S 3081 IS

111th CONGRESS

2d Session

S . 3081

To provide for the interrogation and detention of enemy belligerents who commit hostile acts against the United States, to establish certain limitations on the prosecution of such belligerents for such acts, and for other purposes.

IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

March 4, 2010

Mr. MCCAIN (for himself, Mr. LIEBERMAN, Mr. INHOFE, Mr. BROWN of Massachusetts, Mr. WICKER, Mr. CHAMBLISS, Mr. LEMIEUX, Mr. SESSIONS, and Mr. VITTER) introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary


A BILL

To provide for the interrogation and detention of enemy belligerents who commit hostile acts against the United States, to establish certain limitations on the prosecution of such belligerents for such acts, and for other purposes.

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

SEC. 2. PLACEMENT OF SUSPECTED UNPRIVILEGED ENEMY BELLIGERENTS IN MILITARY CUSTODY.

SEC. 3. INTERROGATION AND DETERMINATION OF STATUS OF SUSPECTED UNPRIVILEGED ENEMY BELLIGERENTS.

SEC. 4. LIMITATION ON PROSECUTION OF ALIEN UNPRIVILEGED ENEMY BELLIGERENTS.

SEC. 5. DETENTION WITHOUT TRIAL OF UNPRIVILEGED ENEMY BELLIGERENTS.

SEC. 6. DEFINITIONS.

SEC. 7. EFFECTIVE DATE.


50 posted on 04/18/2010 7:46:29 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: Texas Fossil; rabscuttle385

Rabs,thanks for the ping and TF, thanks for posting the bill.This section bothers me, because of 2(E). Even though 2(D) seems to limit the definiton of a high value detainee to Al Qaeda, (E) undoes that limitation. Besides, how does one prove that someone is a member of AQ or one of its affiliates—look in their yearbook?

Another McStupid boondoggle, aimed to make him suddenly look Conservative in a re-election year.

I am disappointed that Sessions and Inhofe chose to be mixed up in this ambiguous bill. Lieberman—no surprise there—you can find Joe whichever way the wind is blowing.

(2) CRITERIA FOR DESIGNATION OF INDIVIDUALS AS HIGH-VALUE DETAINEES- The regulations required by this subsection shall include criteria for designating an individual as a high-value detainee based on the following:

(A) The potential threat the individual poses for an attack on civilians or civilian facilities within the United States or upon United States citizens or United States civilian facilities abroad at the time of capture or when coming under the custody or control of the United States.

(B) The potential threat the individual poses to United States military personnel or United States military facilities at the time of capture or when coming under the custody or control of the United States.

(C) The potential intelligence value of the individual.

(D) Membership in al Qaeda or in a terrorist group affiliated with al Qaeda.

(E) Such other matters as the President considers appropriate


78 posted on 04/18/2010 8:22:59 PM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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bfl


88 posted on 04/18/2010 8:31:34 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Texas Fossil

SEC. 6. DEFINITIONS.
In this Act:
(1) ACT OF TERRORISM- The term `act of terrorism’ means an act of terrorism as that term is defined in section 101(16) of the Homeland Security Act of 2002 (6 U.S.C. 101(16)).

http://vlex.com/source/us-code-domestic-security-1005

(4) The term “critical infrastructure” has the meaning given that term in section 5195c(e) of title 42.
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http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/42/usc_sec_42_00005195-—c000-.html
TITLE 42 > CHAPTER 68 > SUBCHAPTER IV-B > § 5195c
§ 5195c. Critical infrastructures protection

(e) Critical infrastructure defined
In this section, the term “critical infrastructure” means systems and assets, whether physical or virtual, so vital to the United States that the incapacity or destruction of such systems and assets would have a debilitating impact on security, national economic security, national public health or safety, or any combination of those matters.

***
(9) The term “key resources” means publicly or privately controlled resources essential to the minimal operations of the economy and government.

(15) The term “terrorism” means any activity that - (A) involves an act that - (i) is dangerous to human life or potentially destructive of critical infrastructure or key resources; and (ii) is a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State or other subdivision of the United States; and (B) appears to be intended - (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping. (16)(A) The term “United States”, when used in a geographic sense, means any State of the United States, the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, Guam, American Samoa, the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, any possession of the United States, and any waters within the jurisdiction of the United States.

Poster’s note: I already see a problem here, since the definition of terrorism is not found in ARTICLE 519c 101(16), but rather 101(15)!

However, notice the clause in SEC 6 (15)A(i)
“…is dangerous to human life or potentially destructive of critical infrastructure or key resources;”

“Dangerous to” or “potentially destructive” of what “key resource”?

The term “key resources” means publicly or privately controlled resources essential to the minimal operations of the economy and government.

Therefore, anything defined (by whom) as “dangerous to human life” or “potentially destructive of” a publicly or privately controlled resource (perhaps the internet?), deemed (by whom) essential to the operations of the economy and government, might constitute a threat. Could an American citizen’s public protest, dissent, or blogging or denunciation of a government official or policy be considered “dangerous to” or “potentially destructive” to the minimal operations of the economy and government?

It gets worse under subsection (B)...

(B) appears to be intended - (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion;

Goodbye TEA party protests, marches on Washington DC, or any other form of active dissent against the government!

Back to the Bill in question...

SEC. 3. INTERROGATION AND DETERMINATION OF STATUS OF SUSPECTED UNPRIVILEGED ENEMY BELLIGERENTS.
(d) Regulations-
(1) IN GENERAL- The operations and activities of high-value detainee interrogation groups under this section shall be governed by such regulations and guidance as the President shall establish for purposes of implementing this section. The regulations shall specify the officer or officers of the Executive Branch responsible for determining whether an individual placed in military custody under section 2 meets the criteria for treatment as a high-value detainee for purposes of interrogation and determination of status by a high-value interrogation group under this section.

Poster’s note: “…shall be governed by such regulations and guidance as the President shall establish…” Considering certain definitions, this statement is troubling.

(2) CRITERIA FOR DESIGNATION OF INDIVIDUALS AS HIGH-VALUE DETAINEES- The regulations required by this subsection shall include criteria for designating an individual as a high-value detainee based on the following:

(A) The potential threat the individual poses for an attack on civilians or civilian facilities within the United States or upon United States citizens or United States civilian facilities abroad at the time of capture or when coming under the custody or control of the United States.

Posters note: Potential threat an individual poses? Who determines this, and based on what criteria? (This is especially true in light of the DHS memorandum about “potential domestic threats.”)

(B) The potential threat the individual poses to United States military personnel or United States military facilities at the time of capture or when coming under the custody or control of the United States.

(C) The potential intelligence value of the individual.

Poster’s note: Oh this clause is ripe for abuse!

(D) Membership in al Qaeda or in a terrorist group affiliated with al Qaeda.

(E) Such other matters as the President considers appropriate.

Poster’s note: Under (E) any protections assumed by the definitions and stipulations made in this section become null.


143 posted on 04/18/2010 9:40:23 PM PDT by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !)
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