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To: JoeProBono

It seems to me letting folks carry without a permit is close to anarchy. Do they prohibit convicted felons from owing and carrying? How about folks with mental problems? Requiring someone to go through the process required to obtain a permit allows some degree of control to weed out folks that really should not be allowed to carry a concealed weapon.


14 posted on 04/16/2010 5:04:35 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: antidemoncrat

Are you really OK with your rights being rationed?

Defend some rights, but demand restrictions on others, rendering them a mere privilege?

Prior to certain Jim Crow laws and the Nazi Weapons law of 1938 being adopted as the “Gun Control Act of 1968”, etc. unconstitutional permits were not needed by American citizens.

I am certain the law specifically prohibits carry by “Prohibited Persons”, which would include felons and the mentally ill.

Do you actually think that allowing more law abiding Americans to exercise this constitutional right is going to affect the number of felons or mentally ill who ignore the law?

If this is anarchy, we need more of it!


17 posted on 04/16/2010 5:21:01 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition
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To: antidemoncrat
You still need a handgun permit. This new law only means that you don't need a separate and special permit to carry it concealed.
23 posted on 04/16/2010 5:48:25 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: antidemoncrat

You know, Alaska has had this kind of law for some time - no problems.

Mental types, thugs and so on - they had guns before and still do, at least now I don;t have to worry about being busted for being at least as well armed the punk on the street.

Permits do not equal “safet” any more than doctors licenses mean a cure for your ills.


25 posted on 04/16/2010 6:23:57 PM PDT by ASOC (In case of attack, tune to 640 kilocycles or 1240 kilocycles on your AM dial.)
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To: antidemoncrat

<< It seems to me letting folks carry without a permit is close to anarchy. Do they prohibit convicted felons from owing and carrying? How about folks with mental problems? Requiring someone to go through the process required to obtain a permit allows some degree of control to weed out folks that really should not be allowed to carry a concealed weapon. >>

In Arizona, 100% of the law-abiding population has always had a Constitutional right to carry openly. Until a 1990 court decision, conclealed carry was also considered a Constitutionally protected right. Only 2% (about 150K) of the population has chosen to obtain a CCW permit since the permit system began in 1994. The rest carry openly.

Prohibited possessors (felons, etc.) have always been prohibited from carrying firearms, yet that never stopped them.

The new law only allows adults (21 and over) to carry concealed without a permit. The law also states that if you are carrying concealed in the furtherance of a crime you face a felony.

You can still get a permit in Arizona. They are good for bypassing the NICS check when purchasing a firearm, carrying out of state, and carrying where booze is sold.


28 posted on 04/16/2010 9:46:27 PM PDT by Klaatu Barada Nikto
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To: antidemoncrat
Do they prohibit convicted felons from owing and carrying?

I used to think like you too. In fact, you could probably see me arguing the opposite in my posting history.

Someone convinced me otherwise though - if you are a convicted felon, you're in jail, right? After you leave jail, you've already paid your debt to society. Why do we feel it's right to deny those who already did their time their Constitutional rights?

32 posted on 04/17/2010 10:00:43 AM PDT by Dan Nunn (Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise. -The Great One)
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