[LibertyRocks]

I’m thinking it was more the other way around from the initial reports, frankly (first they said 4 attempts, then 2, now back to 4 landing attempts — and what about a supposed fuel dump?). The recent work done on the plane IN RUSSIA concerns me as well...

I will be waiting to see what the Poles say regarding the black box. I trust nothing out of Russia frankly, and seeing as the “others” are now in power in Poland as a result it seems likely we may never know the real truth. The acting President is favorable toward Russia compared to Kaczynski... Another troubling detail frankly.

[little jeremiah]

Thanks for the ping.

This is just horrible. I can hardly stand to read about it and yet I feel it is my duty to find out what I can.

[kbennkc]

I’m thinking it was more the other way around from the initial reports, frankly (first they said 4 attempts, then 2, now back to 4 landing attempts — and what about a supposed fuel dump?). The recent work done on the plane IN RUSSIA concerns me as well...

I can never understand the news reporting what the government releases and then later acting like they never said it . We can trust nothing the news or government says in this country , let alone in Russia .

I too read about the fuel dumping . If they were dumping fuel wouldn't they have informed approach control about it ? If they were not dumping fuel , who in the hell made that story up and for what reason ?

From the article

The official said it appeared that the plane tried to land by levelling out its oblique descent approach to a horizontal angle in a bid to compensate for the bad weather.

This is the kind of desperate stunt pilots who are not instrument rated have been known to try . These pilots had to be the Polish equivelent of our Air Force One crews . No way can I believe they would fly that thing into the ground like a low time doctor or lawyer in his Bonanza or Mooney . We all have known such tragedies in our communities if not our families .If our Air Force One crew said they tried to land but must proceed to an alternate and President Obama ordered them to land anyway , things might get interesting , but no effing way will I believe they would fly their ship into the ground trying for visual . This is terrible and I fear we will never learn the truth . This is so weird , I don't want our people going over there , even for the funeral . Not even Joe Biden .

[b4its2late]

Extreme fish smell emanating from this whole thing.