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Polish President's pilots 'knew plane was doomed': Investigators
Times of India ^ | Apr 16, 2010 | AFP

Posted on 04/15/2010 10:57:55 PM PDT by ketelone

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To: LibertyRocks

like ‘gloating’.


61 posted on 04/16/2010 9:09:51 AM PDT by Kackikat (There is no such thing as a free lunch, because someone paid, somewhere.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Wasn’t the report that it was a Russian Plane sent to pick up Poland’s Admin for the memorial? If the plane was not a Poland plane used by Poland Gov’t, then why did they get on it? Or did I misunderstand?


62 posted on 04/16/2010 9:27:31 AM PDT by Kackikat (There is no such thing as a free lunch, because someone paid, somewhere.)
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To: theanchoragedailyruse

what kind of airport has tall trees so close to the glidepath?


63 posted on 04/16/2010 9:49:41 AM PDT by rahbert (Wallet of steel!)
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To: dfwgator

Did Kaczynski have a problem keeping himself under ‘control’
a la Bubba? If not I’d say the comparison is unfair.


64 posted on 04/16/2010 9:52:20 AM PDT by rahbert (Wallet of steel!)
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To: Albion Wilde
...My family and I drove down to DC on Sunday and visited the Polish Embassy to sign the condolence book..."

Bless your heart for that. Very touching.

65 posted on 04/16/2010 9:52:23 AM PDT by 444Flyer (PharaOh, PharaOh...let my people go!)
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To: null and void

Hey, somebody has to keep you awake Null!;-)


66 posted on 04/16/2010 9:53:30 AM PDT by 444Flyer (PharaOh, PharaOh...let my people go!)
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To: rahbert

It was not my intention to compare the two men, just to put a frame of reference for Americans to understand why there is a controversy there.


67 posted on 04/16/2010 9:56:47 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: freekitty; LibertyRocks
Seems like Poland was tag-teamed.

First denied missile defense from the USA, then decapitated by the USSR Russia.

68 posted on 04/16/2010 10:10:23 AM PDT by happygrl (Continuing to predict that 0bama will resign)
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To: happygrl; Albion Wilde
Seems like Poland was tag-teamed.

First denied missile defense from the USA, then decapitated by the USSR Russia.

Yes. And now a cloud of ash covers a lot of Europe. It appears symbolic.

69 posted on 04/16/2010 10:16:21 AM PDT by 444Flyer (PharaOh, PharaOh...let my people go!)
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To: ketelone

sure I’m sure that was what the Russian were thing too.


70 posted on 04/16/2010 10:49:57 AM PDT by theanchoragedailyruse
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To: ketelone

My instincts tell me Putin knew the plane was doomed as well.


71 posted on 04/16/2010 11:14:37 AM PDT by mrmeyer ("When brute force is on the march, compromise is the red carpet." Ayn Rand)
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To: LibertyRocks

The Russian Media, Unfortunately during Obama’s Regime, is probably much more truthful and Objective than Ours!


72 posted on 04/16/2010 11:59:28 AM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: 444Flyer

I spent an hour on your page.

Awesome is an understatement.

I am most intrigued by Galilee of the Nations and will pass that on to my Jewish friends;-)


73 posted on 04/16/2010 12:26:18 PM PDT by happygrl (Continuing to predict that 0bama will resign)
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To: LibertyRocks
The official said it appeared that the plane tried to land by levelling out its oblique descent approach to a horizontal angle in a bid to compensate for the bad weather.

But the source said a “particularity of the plane is that if its speed of descent is more that six metres per second, when the plane equalized and goes into a horizontal flight it loses altitude,” the source said.”


I'm a pilot, and all I see in those two sentences is gibberish and more gibberish. I'm not even sure what they are saying! Something about changing the approach angle that almost makes sense, then complete gibberish about the plane "equalizing" and "going into" horizontal flight? Makes me wonder WFT the crash had to do with the cabin pressurization system, and what the VTOL Tupelov 124 looks like, anyway. Complete nonsense.
74 posted on 04/16/2010 2:07:49 PM PDT by publiusF27
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To: publiusF27

I googled the phrase “Oblique descent” last night, and one of the responses was a Google book about physics. It may be a translation problem... However, it sounds like they are making stuff up trying to make it sound all professional-like. Trying to talk over people’s heads.

Besides, there are just too many inconsistencies in what has been reported by authorities TO the press...


75 posted on 04/16/2010 3:26:41 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com ~ Anti-Obama Gear: http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: True Republican Patriot

Don’t get me wrong... I actually trust one or two UK papers, and would trust the Pravda most times over the vast majority of our media. However, this is a REALLY big thing, and Putin’s hands are not clean regarding the media in the country. The implications are very serious if it is found Russia is not being completely truthful about the accident (or more directly Putin because he put himself ultimately in charge of the whole thing). There is more to say that there is some sort of cover-up going on, IMHO than not. Too many conflicting reports...


76 posted on 04/16/2010 3:31:44 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com ~ Anti-Obama Gear: http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: LibertyRocks

My apologies, I was being Sarquastic about Our Extremely Rotten Media here today. I never believe a word of any Russian Media, especially whena Disaster like this happens the night before PUTIN is alleged to be planning on APOLOGIZING to the Polish People for a Russian Atrocity against them......It wasn’t going to happen....the KGB is very effective..... and now it just by coincidence will never Happen.....:-(


77 posted on 04/16/2010 3:39:11 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: ketelone

The Russian report seems to imply that the pilots not only made errors, but did not know how to properly fly that type of plane. I find this extremely difficult to believe. One would think that a plane carrying so many high ranking officials would be flown by the best pilots in the country.


78 posted on 04/16/2010 3:43:11 PM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Do you have a ping list for the crash? If so, would you please add me to it? Thank you. :)


79 posted on 04/16/2010 3:48:03 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com ~ Anti-Obama Gear: http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: F15Eagle

Any chance of anything “planted” during the maintenance/repairs/renovations in Russia back in December? Or, do I remember the cold war and spy movies too well?


80 posted on 04/16/2010 3:50:50 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com ~ Anti-Obama Gear: http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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