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To: wagglebee; bcsco; Eagle Eye; metmom; xzins; MrB; calex59
What about Jeremiah 1:5? Leviticus 17 is talking about life of the flesh ONLY, not human life.

Using Jeremiah 1:5 you could make the argument that contraception is murder.

BTW the definition of murder is the killing of the flesh, not the killing of the spirit. Man cannot kill the spirit, only God has that power.

The question then becomes at what point does the flesh have "life".

I believe that there is a valid argument that the flesh is not "life" from a biblical standpoint until the heart begins to beat. I will concede that argument on a biblical basis. The fact is that 99.999999% of all abortions occur after the heart begins to beat, as most women are wholly unaware they are pregnant until about 30 days into their pregnancy.

272 posted on 04/06/2010 12:51:05 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe
Using Jeremiah 1:5 you could make the argument that contraception is murder.

No, I disagree. Contraception is the prevention of conception for pleasure. Jeremiah speaks to God knowing us before we were conceived. If there is no act of conception, intentional or otherwise, then the all-knowing God is aware of man's intention. And conception has not occurred. A convoluted statement, I agree, but I think you get my gist...

276 posted on 04/06/2010 12:57:14 PM PDT by bcsco (Obama: Hokus Pokus POTUS)
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To: P-Marlowe; bcsco; metmom; xzins; MrB; calex59
Using Jeremiah 1:5 you could make the argument that contraception is murder.

Less than a century ago this is what all Christians believed.

277 posted on 04/06/2010 12:58:16 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: P-Marlowe
The fact is that 99.999999% of all abortions occur after the heart begins to beat

Like I said earlier, let's not argue fringe cases, but pick the low hanging fruit, so to speak.

Pro-aborts try to confuse the issue with these fringe cases, which amount for 1% of the abortions,
whereas they don't want to talk about the 99% of abortions done out of convenience for the "mother".

281 posted on 04/06/2010 1:01:35 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: P-Marlowe; wagglebee; bcsco; Eagle Eye; xzins; MrB; calex59
The question then becomes at what point does the flesh have "life".

No. The question is whether the flesh is human or not. Changing it to whether it is life is merely a diversionary tactic.

Killing animals is not murder. Murder is the killing of a human being by another human being. THAT is what God prohibits.

290 posted on 04/06/2010 1:11:41 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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