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To: presidio9

Hope you have your flame retardant undies on.

Some will call you pro abortion and a baby killer even though you could be 100% against abortion but because you fail to effectively impose your will on others then you will be a baby killer and pro abortion.


25 posted on 04/05/2010 4:11:10 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.)
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To: Eagle Eye
Some will call you pro abortion and a baby killer even though you could be 100% against abortion but because you fail to effectively impose your will on others then you will be a baby killer and pro abortion.

You obviously don't know me very well, and are therefore barking up the wrong tree. I have zero use for libertarianians who hang out on this conservative website. Libertarian and Conservative political philosophies have the same root, but otherwise couldn't be more different.

There is one, and only one reason to oppose abortion: Because it is always EXACTLY the same thing as murder. If I did not feel that way, then I would agree with you, that it's a "personal choice issue." I think that people who feel that way are dumbasses, but at least I can understand their position. The ones I can't understand are people who feel uncomfortable about abortion, but still fight to keep it "Safe, legal & rare." Would you please explain to me, Mrs. Clinton, why abortion ought to be "rare" if it's just a surgical proceedure?

In any case, you misunderstood me. As far as I'm concerned, ALL abortions are murder. They have ZERO to do with the "rights" of the mother. And any more who has an abortion is complicit in that murder. I leave that one up to God to sort out. It's still a sin, even if you say you weren't fully aware of it. My point was this: If we could end the argument, and save millions of lives at the expense of the thousands of unfortunates who were conceived through rape, we ought to do it. I'm about saving lives, not who gets punished and why.

Get this through your tiny libertarian head: Nobody on this thread is or will ever try to impose their will on you. I'm assuming you can't have an abortion. If you could, the right to life still trumps all others.

52 posted on 04/05/2010 6:46:17 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: Eagle Eye
Some will call you pro abortion and a baby killer even though you could be 100% against abortion but because you fail to effectively impose your will on others then you will be a baby killer and pro abortion. You miss the point completely...

The question is whether or not you believe there is a human being existing before birth and if so should this person be murdered for revenge, or the psycholical comfort of the mother, or for any reason. Once the deed is done e.g. a pregnancy following rape THEN what. Is carrying a child for 9 months physical or psychological torture -will killing it make things better?

Anyway, IF one truly believes that there is a human being existing before birth THEN it is quite understandable to see why even rape seems a hollow reason to murder an innocent...

There is no 'wiggle room' here like some would imply...

98 posted on 04/05/2010 10:07:41 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: Eagle Eye; DBeers
Some will call you pro abortion and a baby killer even though you could be 100% against abortion but because you fail to effectively impose your will on others then you will be a baby killer and pro abortion.

My God man, do you have two functioning brain cells to see that the issue is about murder, not some feely good twisted misunderstanding of *freedom*?

By your twisted reasoning, we might as well just make all forms of murder legal, because after all, why should anyone impose his will on anyone else who wants to kill someone? After all, that's government intervention, forcing someone to not do what they want to and the government doesn't have that right. They have their *freedom* after all. If they want to kill someone, who's business it that?

119 posted on 04/06/2010 5:44:56 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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