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To: aruanan

It doesn’t go to follow that those who survive are believers.

No doubt there’s a chance some could if they went into hiding, but nothing in Scripture indicates that those who survive the Tribulation, except the Jews, are necessarily believers.


107 posted on 03/29/2010 5:09:07 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
It doesn’t go to follow that those who survive are believers.

No doubt there’s a chance some could if they went into hiding, but nothing in Scripture indicates that those who survive the Tribulation, except the Jews, are necessarily believers.


The elect are the believers. Remember that Jesus was talking to his followers, those he had chosen, the elect, and answering their questions about the end of the age and his return. He was specifically addressing what would happen to them as believers in their stand for him through the time leading up to and through the tribulation, not to what would happen to the general Jewish population. The distinction that everyone in Matthew 24 that he was talking to were not the Church but Jews is yet another poisonous fruit of dispensationalist rationalizing of the scriptures to fit a preconceived idea.
108 posted on 03/29/2010 5:30:57 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: metmom

Thank you for all your good posts and reponses to so many today. They were too many for me to keep up with in the worklurk mode but I knew you were doing a wonderful job of responding with wisdom and truth.

If you or others want to really be blessed as we await that trumpet sound - go and get the Gaither Homecoming CD from South Africa!

These Homecoming videos are all awesome but this one is just the best I have ever heard. Songs to sing as we get ready for that great gettin up morning when we say, “Fare thee well.”

I thought I could post more but sleep has overtaken me so will try to come back here tomorrow.

The skies were full of His Angels and His Presence tonight by the way...hope others were “looking up.”


115 posted on 03/29/2010 7:10:19 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt (Jesus is coming for His Bride Very Very Soon - Please Turn to Him Now!)
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To: metmom; aruanan
You were saying ...

It doesn’t go to follow that those who survive are believers.

No doubt there’s a chance some could if they went into hiding, but nothing in Scripture indicates that those who survive the Tribulation, except the Jews, are necessarily believers.

Just to speak to the issue of the ones who survive (i.e., still alive and in their earthly bodies) the Tribulation, I'll point out the following.

In terms of percentages, it's about 25-33% of the world's population that survives the Tribulation (it slightly varies according to some different prophecy teachers).

And you're right in that not all of them are believers who survive. I'm not sure what percentage of each (believers/non-believers) there are, but it's clear that there is each group who survive.

HOWEVER, only one group will go "into the Kingdom" on this earth, that Jesus, the Messiah of Israel rules over for 1,000 years. That one group is composed of believers only, or more technically speaking -- the ones who pass the judgment of the nations that Christ engages in, at that time.

You see what happens there, according to what we are told of the Sheep and Goat judgment in Matthew, chapter 25. It's there that Jesus gathers up the nations and enters into judgment. Those who pass judgment, go into the Kingdom on earth. Those that don't are cast into outer darkness, to await their final judgment at the Great White Throne judgment (Revelation 20).

So, everyone who goes into the Kingdom, from having survived in their original bodies (not resurrected, not translated, and not glorified bodies) -- they go on to repopulate the earth, during that 1,000 year reign of the Messiah of Israel.

255 posted on 03/31/2010 8:11:46 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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