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Obama administration to order lenders to cut mortgage payments for jobless (Communism is here)
washington post ^ | 3/25/2010 | Renae Merle and Dina Elboghdady

Posted on 03/25/2010 3:54:54 PM PDT by tobyhill

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To: Mariner
One has to ask: Under what authority?

Under the authority that allows the Congress to pass a law forcing a private citizen to buy a product or be fined or jailed.

181 posted on 03/25/2010 10:30:08 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (The Tree of Liberty ....)
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To: longtermmemmory
"There is no forgivness just forbearance."

Exactly. And the same can be said of student loans. Ever since Big Govt got their grimy hands involved, it has been downhill ever since. They F*&# up EVERYTHING they get involved in. Amtrak, SS, Post Office, Healthcare, Medicare, Medicaid, Education/Public Schools, Income Tax, Death Tax, etc etc.

Student Loan Crisis

182 posted on 03/25/2010 10:40:53 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: tobyhill; All

WILL NONE DARE CALL IT FASCISM????


183 posted on 03/25/2010 10:48:31 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Obama White House=Tammany Hall on the National Mall)
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To: RockinRight

True, but almost all benefited when we bailed out AIG and they got 100%


184 posted on 03/26/2010 12:01:24 AM PDT by mainsail that
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To: tobyhill

Lee Hunsucker would be proud...


185 posted on 03/26/2010 12:06:04 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: spyone

Seriously, the worst president ever. America is going to pay long term from the folly of Obama and the democraps, just like the late 70’s and the failed Carter administration.


186 posted on 03/26/2010 12:11:56 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: mainsail that
"Tax their $30 Billion bonus by 50%? This may not be right but banks loved socialism a year ago, their whining will not register with me."

I think you are without a clue? The banks have to repay the monies extended under TARP with interest. As well, many shareholders suffered losses YET if ever to be recovered.

Maybe you should check yourself out for marxist tendencies...

187 posted on 03/26/2010 3:28:18 AM PDT by DBeers ( †)
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To: tobyhill

Why doesn’t he just declare all mortgages paid off?


188 posted on 03/26/2010 3:33:59 AM PDT by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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To: DBeers

First I am not a Marxist, and second Marxists at least are consistent. Those ‘capitalists’ gambled and would have been wiped out if not for us bailing them and their counter-parties out. So, go ahead and gamble, if you win you keep it it, if you lose we, the suckers, will bail you out. How free market!

It has been discussed long enough already http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/economicsunbound/archives/2009/03/german_and_fren.html


189 posted on 03/26/2010 3:47:46 AM PDT by mainsail that
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To: tobyhill

Economic and voter-base manipulation.

Keeps banks from flooding the market with foreclosures which skews housing indicators low and insures those receiving freebie/reduced mortgage payments vote to preserve their spot at the trough.


190 posted on 03/26/2010 5:59:23 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: spyone

Why - what was outrageous is the billions they took from the taxpayers and they deserve every evil upon them.


191 posted on 03/26/2010 6:18:39 AM PDT by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
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To: jerry557

There is always risk to ownership of property and risk in incurring debt. People, government and banks forgetting those truths led to the imbalances that caused this recession. Allowing nature to run its course cures the imbalances leading to stronger economic performance and stability in the future, and it teaches the lessons that should be learned to everybody involved.

In reality, a lot of banks already make use of many of the same tactics trying to make the best business decision they can. My bank does, but not with government involvement. What you would really be surprised at is the number of people we have encountered, fully capable of paying their debts, are trying to squeeze out something free in the form of additonal equity, simply because the government is touting this program. The whole mindset is absolute poison to our culture and nation. But government coercion for banks to adopt this plan is an animal of an entirely different stripe, one that is absolutely intolerable.

This plan simply shifts ALL of the risk to the banks, eliminates the lessons learned and really prolongs the recovery. In fact, big government activism has already prolonged this recession. Businesses are afraid to hire because they are afraid of upcoming taxes and healthcare mandates. In addition, the plan does something far worse: we trade constitutionally protected property rights, that has untold and lasting value, for the illusion of a fix to a temporary problem.


192 posted on 03/26/2010 6:42:50 AM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: loboinok
(Communism is here)

It's been here for quite some time. We just didn't want to hear the warnings and instead, heckled and ridiculed the messengers as conspiracy theorists.


Amen! There is no way what we are currently experiencing occurred over night or over one year. Zero and his minions are just administering the coup de grace.
193 posted on 03/26/2010 6:57:16 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: tobyhill

Presidential Hubris. This idiot is about to drown in his.


194 posted on 03/26/2010 7:02:14 AM PDT by headstamp 2 ("No Good Deed Goes Unpunished")
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To: tobyhill

Boy, what I sucker I am - I paid off my mortgage.


195 posted on 03/26/2010 8:31:25 AM PDT by austingirl
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To: proudtobeanamerican1

“OBAMA did!”

Ahhh lifestyles of the young and delusional.


196 posted on 03/26/2010 8:35:11 AM PDT by Cheryllynn
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To: Soothesayer9

if you control student loans you control the financial future.

go to college and then there is loan forgivness IF you work for the government or the brownshirts.

This is to create the GI bill for anybody OUTSIDE of the military.


197 posted on 03/26/2010 10:18:35 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: RatRipper

But the banks have always had all the risk.

When you take out a loan, you put up collateral. If you don’t pay the loan, the bank gets the collateral. That’s the standard loan contract.
In a mortgage, the collateral is the house. So if you don’t pay the mortgage, the bank gets the house. And its always been that way. The reason it has become a problem now is because the collateral has lost value. And that is the risk the bank takes when it approves a mortgage.

If someone defaults and they have $100,000 sitting somewhere. Then I agree the bank can and should go after that. However, in 90% of foreclosures, that is not the case. If the house is worth $200,000 and the loan is for $400,000. And that person is unemployed, broke, and living with family. What exactly do you want to happen? He doesnt have any money to go after. The bank is screwed and will have to write off the debt. You can’t pursue the debt forever. The law has never allowed that and will never allow that.


198 posted on 03/26/2010 1:17:04 PM PDT by jerry557
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To: Zeddicus
I just joined the layoff club.

Thankfully, I have no spouse, no dependents, no real estate and no debt.

There is no means test for unemployment or food stamps and that silly Social Security statement I get every year lists earnings back to 1962.

This Atlas has shrugged. I look forward to doing my part to bankrupt the system.

199 posted on 03/26/2010 7:52:09 PM PDT by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Timeout
Hint:

Any time you find a corporation that you think is making too much money, buy their stock.

That's what George Buffet, George Soros and I do.

200 posted on 03/26/2010 7:56:38 PM PDT by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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