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To: butterdezillion

You know... all this stuff may be true and then again it may not be. What I do know, though, is that if it is true, it’s going to take some proof that courts will accept and it’s going to take a case.

Now, I’ve said all along that I don’t think this stuff is going anywhere, but that we needed a state law to require candidates to show a birth certificate. That’s my solution and has been for a long time.

And so far, it’s just as I said, that the legal cases are going nowhere and nothing is being accomplished by that route.

I just think that we would never be in the mess in the first place, you see, if we conservatives had more political pull and power. I mean, Obama should have never been elected, “politically” (and having nothing to do with legal issues).

That’s what will succeed in the long run, is if conservatives start getting power politically, and can win elections consistently, and over the long term, by having more conservatives than we see today.

I know there are a number of posters here who wouldn’t think of this stuff (that we’re discussing) as “nit-picky” — but I sorta do, because if we can’t win elections politically, none of this legal stuff really means anything in the long run. We’ll just keep getting outvoted consistently until we even get outvoted in changing the Constitution, itself by amending certain parts out of existence.

Political power at the voting booth is where it’s at... long term.


167 posted on 03/25/2010 8:55:26 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

I’m really not interested in political power. I’m interested in the rule of law. Without the rule of law, political power is sheer raw, physical, mafia oppression.

That’s what we’re seeing today, and we’re never going to get things back to the America I know and love until we address the corruption and politicization of law enforcement. This is not a battle for political control; it is a battle for the rule of law, the foundational pillar of civilization itself.

The crimes Obama and his ilk have committed are not everyone’s big deal. You may be right that there will never be a court that does a thing. There may not be even one law enforcement agent in this nation that still sees justice as blind to everything but the facts. But if that is the case, then we are far beyond the point where it even matters who has control of Congress. We’ve already lost the war if that is the case.

I don’t ask that anybody jump on the bandwagon regarding the crimes Obama has committed if they are not so inclined. But I do ask that even if you think the issue is going nowhere, you realize that it is law enforcement that we are talking about - and anyone who would ridicule the need for the rule of law cannot be fighting for the good of civilization.

This is not some fringe issue. This is right now where America is at. Will Congress follow their own rules and the Constitution? Nobody knows, but the people who think it matters whether they do or don’t better not call me crazy because I say that forgery, perjury, extortion, social security fraud, charity fraud, and election fraud matter and must be investigated.

I can understand why you think it’s a go-nowhere issue. But if it really is a go-nowhere issue, then this nation is dead. I’m not ready to give up on her yet, and I hope you aren’t either. Together let’s fight the electoral battle AND the law enforcement battle. They are both absolutely vital.


182 posted on 03/26/2010 5:48:47 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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