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ObamaCare Can Be Repealed (Obamacare is today's Intolerable Act)
RealClearPolitics ^ | 3/23/2010 | Edwin Feulner

Posted on 03/23/2010 12:07:05 PM PDT by mojito

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Yeah,what he said.


101 posted on 03/23/2010 1:36:55 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Greetings, and how are you today, comrade?)
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To: Fawn

I think insurance companies would go broke if they took people with pre-existing conditions. That like getting into a car accident and then calling state farm and asking for coverage for the accident.


102 posted on 03/23/2010 1:37:21 PM PDT by diamond6 (Expose Planned Parenthood: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYaTywSDmls)
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To: grumpygresh
If insurance companies can’t exclude people with pre-existing conditions for individual policies, then an individual could sign up for insurance when they are sick and then drop insurance after they get better.

I am sure there are people who do that all the time.

If your last sentence was a comment to me, you are overly rude and must think quite highly of yourself. You must be perfect and never question anything because you have all the answers. How pompous and arrogant that is.

103 posted on 03/23/2010 1:40:00 PM PDT by Fawn (Exterminate Pitbulls)
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To: Fawn

Insurance companies have ALWAYS rejected pre-existing condions. Always.


104 posted on 03/23/2010 1:40:44 PM PDT by doberville
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Who let Keith Richards in the room?


105 posted on 03/23/2010 1:44:59 PM PDT by Mashood
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To: caww
You need to read Sarah's post:

Don't Get Demoralized, Get Organized! Take back the 20!
Posted on Facebook March 23rd, 2010

With the president signing this unwanted and “transformative” government takeover of our health care system today with promises impossible to keep, let's not get discouraged. Don't get demoralized. Get organized!

We're going to reclaim the power of the people from those who disregarded the will of the people. We're going to fire them and send them back to the private sector, which has been shrinking thanks to their destructive government-growing policies. Maybe when they join the millions of unemployed, they'll understand why Americans wanted them to focus on job creation and an invigorated private sector. Come November, we're going to print pink slips for members of Congress as fast as they've been printing money.

We're paying particular attention to those House members who voted in favor of Obamacare and represent districts that Senator John McCain and I carried during the 2008 election. Three of these House members are retiring—from Arkansas's 2nd district, Indiana's 8th district, and Tennessee's 6th district—but we'll be working to make sure that those who replace them are Commonsense Conservatives. The others are running for re-election, and we're going to hold them accountable for this disastrous Obamacare vote. They are: Ann Kirkpatrick (AZ-1), Harry E. Mitchell (AZ-5), Gabrielle Giffords (AZ-8), John Salazar (CO-3), Betsy Markey (CO-4). Allen Boyd (FL-2), Suzanne M. Kosmas (FL-24), Baron P. Hill (IN-9), Earl Pomeroy (ND-AL), Charlie Wilson (OH-6), John Boccieri (OH-16), Kathy Dahlkemper (PA-3), Christopher Carney (PA-10), John M. Spratt, Jr. (SC-5), Tom Perriello (VA-5), Alan B. Mollohan (WV-1), and Nick J. Rahall II (WV-3).

We'll aim for these races and many others. This is just the first salvo in a fight to elect people across the nation who will bring common sense to Washington. Please go to sarahpac.com and join me in the fight.

Stand tall, America. Real change is coming!

106 posted on 03/23/2010 1:45:10 PM PDT by Fawn (Exterminate Pitbulls)
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To: nutmeg

read later


107 posted on 03/23/2010 1:48:11 PM PDT by nutmeg (Bart Stupak: Judas, Neville Chamberlain or Benedict Arnold?)
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To: Fawn

This is serious now. Democrats, liberals, leftists and those who share their views have become enemies of liberty.

People cannot sign up for individual plans if they are excluded in the first place. These people may be eligible for some type of government insurance in certain cases. But with the new health care legislation, we will see gaming of the system in ways we have never seen before. Private plans will be doomed to failure because of premium caps and virtually unlimited coverage requirements. This is, by the way, by design!

Do you support liberty or do you support big government tyranny?


108 posted on 03/23/2010 1:58:58 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: mojito

Repeal, a total wipe out, of the bill is the only solution. I will only support candidates who have the guts to stick to this position.


109 posted on 03/23/2010 2:03:34 PM PDT by AdaGray
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To: Fawn

Thanks Fawn....


110 posted on 03/23/2010 2:07:50 PM PDT by caww
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To: Fawn

Tort reform is something to be considered for certain but at least in my state there seems to be effective tort reform because juries simply don’t make the big awards anymore the way they used to. Insurance companies now will admit liability for their client but offer a ridiculous lowball settlement and refuse to do any better without a long drawn out process because they know that people cannot depend on a huge jury award any longer.

There is a lot more I would say but I am not a physician and people would say I don’t know what I am talking about. Maybe I don’t but I have spent a lot of time researching medical matters and I will just say that I think we are being had in some areas. My practice now is to do everything I can to safeguard my own health. I think it very likely that my own careless habits brought on my diabetes and I am trying to defeat it by better habits. I have no real symptoms other than a slightly elevated blood sugar but I don’t want to sample the other symptoms.


111 posted on 03/23/2010 2:17:16 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: Fawn
When you apply for private insurance, you are given a questionnaire. If you say you do not have diabetes, for instance, and the insurance company finds out that you have been diagnosed with it, you can be denied insurance. If you have never been diagnosed and have no idea that you have it, you would get the policy.

The insurance companies have very good investigators.

I've read this thread through reply 111 and see no mention of this. Apologies if it has been covered. And correct me if I'm wrong.

112 posted on 03/23/2010 2:34:33 PM PDT by firebrand (working on a plan)
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To: mojito
The less ANYONE messes with doctors, the better off we will be. By this I include the government, lawyers, AND insurance companies.

If you are fit and healthy, do not want to buy health insurance, and just want to pay cash for any medical needs you may have in the future, YOUR GOVERNMENT BY LAW SOON WILL BE ABLE TO LEVY A FINE ON YOU AND TURN YOUR CASE OVER TO THE IRS FOR ENFORCEMENT AND COLLECTION.

This is not the America I know.

113 posted on 03/23/2010 3:00:42 PM PDT by Gabrial (The Whitehouse Nightmare will continue as long as the Nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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To: Fawn

i don’t understand this pre-existing clause either.
my first husband and i had health ins. thru his employer. after he died i had to shop for private ins. i found one i could afford. because of a recurring infection i had fought for about a year, they told me they would not cover that problem for one year. after that they would cover it. no problem, i got over the infection and they covered any similar problems thereafter.
fast forward 10 years. hubbymayhem and i adopted our daughter from china. she had what the chinese called hemangioma on her face. no problem. our (again employer based) ins. says they will cover this and not consider it pre-existing condition. turned out to be a harmless port wine stain and dermatologist says case closed.
i personally have never had a problem with this and do not understand what is the deal with this pre-existing condition thing?


114 posted on 03/23/2010 3:10:21 PM PDT by madamemayhem (defeat isn't getting knocked down, it's not getting back up)
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To: madamemayhem

I have a friend whose husband died following a long illness and time on disability. No one will insure her or her young adult son. She is insulin dependent and he has mental health issues.


115 posted on 03/23/2010 3:14:41 PM PDT by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: 84rules
Then why buy health insurance at all? It would be a waste of money. Just wait until you get sick and then go buy insurance. That would save alot of money, wouldn't it?

Playing devil's advocate, I would say that's why they put in a mandate for everyone to buy insurance, in exchange for not letting the insurance companies pick and choose, or drop you when you need it most.

116 posted on 03/23/2010 3:16:03 PM PDT by Dick Holmes
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To: firebrand
“When you apply for private insurance, you are given a questionnaire. If you say you do not have diabetes, for instance, and the insurance company finds out that you have been diagnosed with it, you can be denied insurance. If you have never been diagnosed and have no idea that you have it, you would get the policy.
The insurance companies have very good investigators.

I've read this thread through reply 111 and see no mention of this. Apologies if it has been covered. And correct me if I'm wrong.”

I think you are 100% correct. However, consider the following situation:

A man works twenty years at Company 1 and pays premiums for twenty years to Aetna through payroll deduction. In year 21 he contracts diabetes. Aetna covers it. Then Company 1 shuts down and he loses his job. The next day the same guy goes to work across the street at Company 2 that also uses Aetna for healthcare insurance. Aetna won't insure him because he has a pre-existing condition. Is that fair to the man? In my book it stinks. In his type of situation I agree with post #2.

117 posted on 03/23/2010 3:23:57 PM PDT by Gabrial (The Whitehouse Nightmare will continue as long as the Nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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To: RipSawyer

Yes, I am trying to stay healthy too....eating better, exercise, etc. Sleep is my downfall....that’s important for good health too! Hope you can get your diabetes under control.


118 posted on 03/23/2010 3:25:53 PM PDT by Fawn (Exterminate Pitbulls)
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To: firebrand

That’s interesting....so honesty pays off :)


119 posted on 03/23/2010 3:26:40 PM PDT by Fawn (Exterminate Pitbulls)
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To: madamemayhem

I didn’t understand it either, thats why I stuck my neck out and asked....the thread has alot of good information.


120 posted on 03/23/2010 3:27:54 PM PDT by Fawn (Exterminate Pitbulls)
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