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"... if not born in the US, he'd be a naturalized citizen for Constitutional purposes. This is because he would be a citizen under statutes enacted by Congress. Such have been ruled to be "naturalized" by the Supreme Court, since Congress only has power to make people citizens via naturalization. It's in the Constiutition, article I, section 8."

Bullshit. My wife gave birth to my son while stationed with me in Europe.

www.uscis.gov/naturalization

Just like John McCain, who was born in Panama, my son did not have to go through the naturalization process - he is a citizen by birth.

BTW:

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

That's Article II Section 1, dumbass.

Bullshit. My wife gave birth to my son while stationed with me in Europe. www.uscis.gov/naturalization Just like John McCain, who was born in Panama, my son did not have to go through the naturalization process - he is a citizen by birth.

So then just like McCain, if he decides to run for the Presidency he will have to petition the Congress for an SR511, right???

Just like John McCain, who was born in Panama, my son did not have to go through the naturalization process - he is a citizen by birth.

Yes he is, but that alone doe not make him a natural born citizen.

However, since he was born while you were stationed outside the country in the military at the time, he is "reputed born in the country" and is thus a Natural Born Citizen, at least according to Vattel's law of nations.

(Assuming your wife was a citizen as well. Doesn't matter how either of you became a citizen, just that you were. Natural born, 14th amendment, which includes birth or naturalization in the country, or naturalization at birth outside of it).

Going through the naturalization process is not required for "citizen at birth", and under the statutes such are not considered "naturalized". But, and it's a big "but", under the Constitution, or more properly for Constitutional purposes, they must be so considered, since Congress has no other power to make persons citizens than through naturalization. There are other cases where Congress naturalizes people by qualification or group, rather than individually. Such as when they made Puerto Ricans, Hawaians, Guamians and Alaskans, citizens sometime after the US acquired each of those places. Or Texans for that matter, when that fomerly independent Republic became a US state. (Of course many of them were already citizens, having moved to Texas not so very long before statehood, but there were plenty of children, and some adults, who had been born in what became Texas. They would not have been eligible to the office of President, because they were not natural born citizens.

That's Article II Section 1, dumbass.

I'll thank you to keep a civil tongue in your head, when addressing me.

I may be an ass at times, but I'm not a DUMB ass. I'm kinda senstitive about that.

Captain, USAFR(ret)
BSEE, MSEE