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Stupak Agrees to Executive Order Language: 7 More to Vote Yes
Firedoglake.com ^ | 3/21/10 | Jane Hamsher

Posted on 03/21/2010 10:07:07 AM PDT by LdSentinal

Per MSNBC, Bart Stupak has agreed to language in an executive order that would satisfy his block. He had called a press conference at 12:30, but has now canceled it. The seven Democrats left in his block will vote “yes.”

Details of what the order will contain are not known. Yesterday the Washington Post said that “it is likely at the very least to restate Obama’s commitment to upholding the Hyde Amendment.”

Right now, the Hyde Amendment has to be renewed each year in the Appropriations bill. Having a Democratic President state it in the form of an Executive Order would be quite a coup for anti-abortion activists.

But Stupak has been after more than just Hyde. The health care bill contains $10 billion for Bernie Sanders’ community clinics, which would begin immediately rather than waiting until 2014. Planned Parenthood had pledged their support for the bill with the knowledge that much of that money would be going to their clinics, but would not be used for abortion services. However Stupak has pursuing the agenda of American’s United for Life, who want a commitment that no money go toward Planned Parenthood clinics regardless of what it is used for.

It’s possible that the Stupak block were just looking for a graceful way out, an excuse to drop their fight and vote for the bill without looking to the anti-abortion community that they just gave in to political pressure. But until the language of the executive order is released publicly, nobody will know.

Rep. Diana DeGette agreed to support the executive order yesterday on behalf of the pro-choice caucus. DeGette has still not released the 41 names of those who signed her letter saying they “would not vote for a conference report that contains language that restricts women’s right to choose any further than current law,” even though the language in the Senate bill most certainly does that.

Imagine what today would look like if progressives in the House had held their ground like the unions or the anti-abortion Democrats. As Armando notes, “It actually stands as a testament to the ineptitude of progressives. Fighting for a very popular initiative, they still could not muster a bargaining strategy that could work.”

Join us at 2pm today when debate iof the bill will begin in the House. It will proceed for 2 hours and then be stopped for the vote. After the House votes on the Senate bill, there will immediately be a vote on the reconciliation “fix.” We’ll be live blogging.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; abortion; bhohealthcare; congress; coward; obama; obamacare; prolife; stupak
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To: Windflier

I’m going to stand up and fight, it’s just really hard hearing all this. I have been faxing, calling, you name it, I’ve done it. My cell phone bill these last two months has been insane because I have gone over my minutes calling these people in Washington telling them to vote NO, so I have done my part. It’s just really depressing to know that all of this fighting we are doing and they are going to vote for it anyway


121 posted on 03/21/2010 10:56:54 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: gswilder
"It’s the end of the democratic party,..."

No, it's not. This is SOP for the democrat party, and Washington, D.C. in general. There are very few legislators on either side of the aisle with a moral compass.

122 posted on 03/21/2010 10:58:29 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: American Dream 246

Honduras had not only pure Supremes, they had a fortunate Constitutional clause that called for the ouster of leaders caught in monkey business to attempt to keep themselves in power beyond legal limits, AND the court not the legislature was in charge of determining that. The corresponding American move would be an impeachment in Congress and we know that’s a toothless tiger if not also an unwilling Rat one.


123 posted on 03/21/2010 10:59:40 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: LdSentinal

Anyone who believes Obama is a man of his word is a complete moron. I hope Stupak and crew are not morons.


124 posted on 03/21/2010 10:59:54 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Nothing of this scope has been attempted, outside of wartime as a consequence of the war effort. We are in a quasi-war on terrorists now, but Bummer has notably made no reference to that in pimping Bummercare. This IS new.


125 posted on 03/21/2010 11:01:54 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: American Dream 246
Too late.

Then what's the point of watching the news and posting to Free Republic?

If you honestly believe that it's "too late", then show some dignity and go quietly into the long dark night alone.

Leave those who still have the will to fight to do what they must.

126 posted on 03/21/2010 11:05:15 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: AlanD; P-Marlowe; xzins
Harry Reid is pro-life. He is your man for Senate in Navada.

Hey newbie, are you for real or is this some sort of joke?

127 posted on 03/21/2010 11:07:20 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
"How can an Executive Order overturn a legislated law?"

Ultimately (SCOTUS will have its say on such) it can't but don't confuse logic with Democrat actions.

This move is to give cover to the wavering Demos. Then they can go back home and say: "I was promised they would fix the abortion law and I was lied to. Send me back to Congress so I can fix it right this time!"

128 posted on 03/21/2010 11:08:09 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

I”m going to stand up and fight, it’s just really hard hearing all this. I have been faxing, calling, you name it ive done it. My cell phone bill these last two months has been insane because I have gone over my minutes calling these people in Washington telling them to vote NO, so I have done my part. ++++++

Those that will NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR KILLING BABIES INSIDE THIER MOTHER’S WOMB, THE LINE HAS NOW BEEN DRAWN.


129 posted on 03/21/2010 11:10:18 AM PDT by Varsity Flight
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Honduras had not only pure Supremes, they had a fortunate Constitutional clause that called for the ouster of leaders caught in monkey business to attempt to keep themselves in power beyond legal limits, AND the court not the legislature was in charge of determining that. The corresponding American move would be an impeachment in Congress and we know that’s a toothless tiger if not also an unwilling Rat one.

This is so sad, learning that America became a less free and honorable country that Honduras...I really feel sick in my stomach.

America, the beacon of hope and freedom in the world is becoming, BECAUSE OF HER PEOPLE, a third world banana republic. When you see that we cannot throw out (even worse - we voted him in) a guy, a dictator muslim, a traitor in time of war, like that - that's the end of the American spirit. We knew everything about him before but nobody listened. They fainted listening to him, like they did for Hitler. And then it WAS too late.

The only excuse is that at that time they did not have internet. Now here is NO excuse not to know for whom you vote.
130 posted on 03/21/2010 11:10:18 AM PDT by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
"This IS new."

May be new, but it ain't the end of the democrat party, which is what I wrote. This IS the democrat party these days -- the progressives are clearly in charge, and it is not limited to the democrat party. Lindsay Graham, John McCain and their ilk are are leading the GOP down the same path. It is the progressives that we need to target and bring down.

131 posted on 03/21/2010 11:11:09 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
I’m going to stand up and fight, it’s just really hard hearing all this.

Before this is all over, you may look back on this time as "the good old days". There's no telling how far we as a people will have to go to win back our country. It could get uglier than most of us are willing to contemplate today.

The real revolution is in our minds. If we give up in heart, we have effectively surrendered before the first shot has been fired, or the first boxcar of patriots has been shipped off to the gulag.

No one can make you surrender in spirit. Only you can do that.

132 posted on 03/21/2010 11:15:32 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
Then what's the point of watching the news and posting to Free Republic?

Because I am hoping that my european experience can help those who keep on saying "it cannot happen here" will wake up. But again, you don't fight a dictator with legal and democratic ways. As simple as that. A dictator is by definition UNinterested to know what the people think. Period.

We spent the whole winter thinking that that thing was dead because of all the townhalls and stuffs so we were virtually silent all winter. Suddenly we wake up with the nice weather, a day before the vote...no - they DID NOT give up. Because they are dictators. They will do whatever it takes to push their agenda. And the republicans were totally inexistant all winter long also. Dreadful lost of time.

133 posted on 03/21/2010 11:18:09 AM PDT by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: American Dream 246
This is so sad, learning that America became a less free and honorable country that Honduras...I really feel sick in my stomach.

So, what are you going to DO about it? Sit here on FR, moaning and sobbing about the "death of the republic" - demoralizing every honest patriot who will listen to your blubbering surrender?

Stand up and fight, or sit down and be quiet while better people do what's necessary to restore your freedom.

134 posted on 03/21/2010 11:21:10 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: American Dream 246
202-225-4735 Stupak’s office. They are answering and recording Yes/no votes. (For what it is worth)
135 posted on 03/21/2010 11:22:19 AM PDT by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: American Dream 246

They hang up on me BUT someone alive answered the phone so may be you will be luckier. CALL THEM!


136 posted on 03/21/2010 11:24:20 AM PDT by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: American Dream 246
I am hoping that my european experience can help those who keep on saying "it cannot happen here" will wake up. But again, you don't fight a dictator with legal and democratic ways.

You also don't fight a dictator by openly surrendering in public, like you're doing.

Find your backbone, and straighten it. There's a long hard march ahead.

137 posted on 03/21/2010 11:24:57 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: LdSentinal

Let Stupak know! THIS IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL! The Executive branch can not legislate! Obama is not upholding the constitution and needs to be impeached!


138 posted on 03/21/2010 11:26:53 AM PDT by blasater1960 ( Dt 30, Ps 111, The Torah is perfect, attainable, now and forever)
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To: blasater1960

CALL THE NUMBER I POSTED ABOVE, PLEASE.


139 posted on 03/21/2010 11:30:48 AM PDT by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2476086/posts

Boehner: “Pro-Life” Democrats Can’t Hide Behind an Executive Order

Rec’d via e-mail | Sunday, March 21, 2010 | John Boehner
Posted on Sunday, March 21, 2010 12:10:31 PM by kristinn
GOP Leader: “Make no mistake, a ‘yes’ vote on the Democrats’ health care bill is a vote for taxpayer-funded abortions.”

WASHINGTON, DC – House Republican Leader John Boehner (R-OH) issued the following statement on a potential Executive Order from the White House on abortion:

“The law of the land trumps any Executive Order, which can be reversed or altered at the stroke of a pen by this or any subsequent President without any congressional approval or notice. Moreover, while an Executive Order can direct members of the executive branch, it cannot direct the private sector.

“Because of Roe v. Wade, courts have interpreted the decision as a statutory mandate that the government must provide federal funding for elective abortion in through federal programs. In other words, no Executive Order or regulation can override a statutory mandate unless Congress passes a law that prohibits federal funding from being used in this manner. Legal experts at the US Catholic Conference of Bishops, National Right to Life Committee, Americans United for Life, and Family Research Council have confirmed this view that if the Senate bill is signed into law, it is a statutory mandate for the new health plans to include federal funding of elective abortion. The need for an Executive Order is evidence that this is true, and Congressional Democrats know it. Make no mistake, a ‘yes’ vote on the Democrats’ health care bill is a vote for taxpayer-funded abortions.”


140 posted on 03/21/2010 11:38:26 AM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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