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Stupak: We are close to deal with White House
The Hill ^

Posted on 03/21/2010 6:43:30 AM PDT by AlanD

Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.) said Sunday morning that he is close to striking a deal with the Obama administration on abortion provisions.

"We are close to getting something done," Stupak said in an interview with MSNBC.

Stupak said he engaged in talks late into the night on Saturday night.

The possible deal would focus on an executive order that would specify there would be no public funding for abortions in the healthcare bill.

"We're close but we're not there yet," Stupak said.

Democratic leaders said Sunday they have the votes on healthcare reform, but Stupak said until there is a deal struck, they don't have the votes.

Stupak said "there were eight of us" in the negotiating room with us, all of them no votes.

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To: AlanD

Stupak the Stupid is definitely a little light in the upper storey.

The abortionist leadership is wearing him down with talks, and keeping him from conferring with any of his colleagues who might (if they got together) help each other get some backbone to oppose this bill.

To oppose evil, we must be “as wise as serpents” (as the Bible says). We can’t depend on dummies like this guy Stupak. He’s simply a fool.


21 posted on 03/21/2010 6:52:18 AM PDT by docbnj
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To: AlanD

The pro-lifers will sell you out every time.


22 posted on 03/21/2010 6:52:26 AM PDT by Ikemeister
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To: AlanD

HA HA HA, if Obama gives him what he wants the pro-choice crowd will not go along with it.... unless....

all of them know it will just be a flat out lie. It will be an executive order with a “wink”.


23 posted on 03/21/2010 6:52:43 AM PDT by Reagan69 (The only thing SHOVEL-READY since BO's stimulus has been MICHAEL JACKSON (tammy bruce))
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To: AlanD

But if he’s as open to unenforceable or even unconstitutional outs for supposedly supporting prolife positions, then really how genuine—even if loud and newsmaking—is that support?


24 posted on 03/21/2010 6:52:50 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: pnut22
I’m beginning to think Stupak is a diversion who was in the bag all along.

That's just what I was thinking...nothing but political theater. They are laughing up their sleeves at the American public.

25 posted on 03/21/2010 6:53:06 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people die of natural causes.)
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To: AlanD

How will this go over with the rabid pro abortion wing of the House?


26 posted on 03/21/2010 6:53:07 AM PDT by chad_in_georgia
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To: AlanD

Executive Ordered one day an unordered the next sounds like a deceitful plan there.


27 posted on 03/21/2010 6:53:37 AM PDT by vicar7
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To: tobyhill

That is EXACTLY what he will do. One minute after the bill passes, he will sign another EO to rescind it.


28 posted on 03/21/2010 6:54:30 AM PDT by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: AlanD

The outcome of any vote by Congress on health care is irrelevant since Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution does not specifically grant Congress the power to regulate health care! Therefore the so called legislation on its face is Unconstitutional! The people are not bound to comply with an Unconstitutional act of Congress! This is a power regulated to the states per the 10th Amendment!

It is the reason why Idaho and Virginia have passed legislation blocking federal health care from being illegally imposed on the citizens of those states by reasserting their 10th Amendment rights and 34 other states considering similar legislation! This is the point people need to hammer home with their Congress critters!


29 posted on 03/21/2010 6:54:31 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: greyfoxx39

Hopefully we will be laughing all the way to the polls to vote in real patriots.


30 posted on 03/21/2010 6:54:36 AM PDT by pnut22
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To: AlanD

Surely this stupid fool knows that any EO will be rescinded one minute after the vote.


31 posted on 03/21/2010 6:54:48 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: Common Sense 101
These so-called pro-life Rats will be thrown out quicker than a NY minute if they side with Obama and not just because they sign away but because they will have been proved to be lying hypocrites.
32 posted on 03/21/2010 6:55:23 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: AlanD
An executive order from the greatest liar ever to be elected president has about as much veracity as a liberal politician swearing to uphold the US Constitution.

The already extremely lucrative baby murdering industry IS GOING TO BE FEDERALLY SUBSIDIZED as well if Obamacare passes today.

33 posted on 03/21/2010 6:55:45 AM PDT by Happy Rain ( "Tyranny's End In 2010--Delivered From Hell In 2012!")
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To: MEG33
This is the news I have been expecting. Hey Bart, shouldn't you have waited until Holy Thursday in the garden for this?
34 posted on 03/21/2010 6:55:56 AM PDT by outofstyle (Anti-socialist)
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To: pnut22

Stupak isn’t known for his intelligence. This is the only issue that he could get any type of recognition for that doesn’t take a lot of smarts. I dont doubt that he is pro-life, but he conveniently used the issue to promote himself.


35 posted on 03/21/2010 6:56:38 AM PDT by crymeariver (Good news...in a way)
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The Psalms
109 (KJV)

A Cry for Vengeance
To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.

1 Hold not thy peace, O God of my praise;

2 for the mouth of the wicked and the mouth of the deceitful are opened against me:
they have spoken against me with a lying tongue.

3 They compassed me about also with words of hatred;
and fought against me without a cause.

4 For my love they are my adversaries:
but I give myself unto prayer.

5 And they have rewarded me evil for good,
and hatred for my love.

6 Set thou a wicked man over him:
and let Satan stand at his right hand.

7 When he shall be judged, let him be condemned:
and let his prayer become sin.

8 Let his days be few;
and let another take his office. Acts 1.20

9 Let his children be fatherless,
and his wife a widow.

10 Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg:
let them seek their bread also out of their desolate places.

11 Let the extortioner catch all that he hath;
and let the strangers spoil his labor.

12 Let there be none to extend mercy unto him:
neither let there be any to favor his fatherless children.

13 Let his posterity be cut off;
and in the generation following let their name be blotted out.

14 Let the iniquity of his fathers be remembered with the LORD;
and let not the sin of his mother be blotted out.

15 Let them be before the LORD continually,
that he may cut off the memory of them from the earth.

16 Because that he remembered not to show mercy,
but persecuted the poor and needy man,
that he might even slay the broken in heart.

17 As he loved cursing,
so let it come unto him:
as he delighted not in blessing,
so let it be far from him.

18 As he clothed himself with cursing like as with his garment,
so let it come into his bowels like water,
and like oil into his bones.

19 Let it be unto him as the garment which covereth him,
and for a girdle wherewith he is girded continually.

20 Let this be the reward of mine adversaries from the LORD,
and of them that speak evil against my soul.

21 But do thou for me, O GOD the Lord, for thy name’s sake:
because thy mercy is good, deliver thou me.

22 For I am poor and needy,
and my heart is wounded within me.

23 I am gone like the shadow when it declineth:
I am tossed up and down as the locust.

24 My knees are weak through fasting;
and my flesh faileth of fatness.

25 I became also a reproach unto them:
when they looked upon me they shook their heads. Mt. 27.39 · Mk. 15.29

26 Help me, O LORD my God:
O save me according to thy mercy:

27 that they may know that this is thy hand;
that thou, LORD, hast done it.

28 Let them curse, but bless thou:
when they arise, let them be ashamed;
but let thy servant rejoice.

29 Let mine adversaries be clothed with shame;
and let them cover themselves with their own confusion, as with a mantle.

30 I will greatly praise the LORD with my mouth;
yea, I will praise him among the multitude.

31 For he shall stand at the right hand of the poor,
to save him from those that condemn his soul.


36 posted on 03/21/2010 6:56:55 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: LS

I am NOT Catholic but didn’t the RC church come out and say an Exec Order wouldn’t cut it with them?


37 posted on 03/21/2010 6:57:24 AM PDT by Reagan69 (The only thing SHOVEL-READY since BO's stimulus has been MICHAEL JACKSON (tammy bruce))
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To: combat_boots

“Stupak Iscariot, bringing judgment to the US for the shedding of innocent blood of the unborn, those whose organs will be removed without their permission, courtesy of 0bama and Sunstein/Sibelius, and euthanasia as soon after 40 as actuarially possible.”


The ones that do the aborting are the ones who want this, so I don’t know what the heck is going on his head if this is his logic.


38 posted on 03/21/2010 6:57:33 AM PDT by CommieCutter ("You wanted the presidency, you got it, now FIX THE DAMN ECONOMY!!!!" ----YankeeReb)
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To: AlanD

Just words, Bart. Wake up.


39 posted on 03/21/2010 6:58:18 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: smokingfrog
"Besides, he can easily undo one executive order with another one."

You definitely got that right and it needs to be reiterated a thousand time over!!

40 posted on 03/21/2010 6:58:40 AM PDT by Old Badger (boy do opportunities abound everywhere for Real Conservatives!)
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