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LIVE HEALTH CARE THREAD ~ SATURDAY & SUNDAY
20 March 2010

Posted on 03/20/2010 7:07:53 AM PDT by SE Mom

Edited on 03/21/2010 5:00:38 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

10 AM Rules Committee meeting (C-span2 LIVE all day)

11 AM Stupak press conference

12 PM Demonstration at the Capitol

3 PM Obama meets with the Democratic caucus

Sunday
2 p.m.: The House will debate for one hour the rules of debate for the reconciliation bill and the Senate bill.

3 p.m.: The House will vote to end debate and vote on the rules of the debate.

3:15 p.m.: The House will debate the reconciliation package for two hours.

5:15 p.m.: The House will vote on the reconciliation package.

5:30 p.m.: The House will debate for 15 minutes on a Republican substitute and then vote on the substitute.

6 p.m.: The House will vote on the final reconciliation package.

6:15 p.m.: If the reconciliation bill passes, the House will immediately vote on the Senate bill, without debate.


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To: Qwackertoo

Mark Levin’s draft “Slaughter Rule” Complaint

http://landmarklegal.org/uploads/Landmark%20Complaint%20(00013086-2).pdf


401 posted on 03/20/2010 9:36:40 AM PDT by diji (IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE, FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM !)
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To: Dinah Lord

Yeah, I heard that. And she’s telling it like it is. “Obama is a 21st century Marxist”.


402 posted on 03/20/2010 9:36:46 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: SE Mom

Yet the company that Carl Cameron works for (FoxNews) claims that Nancy has the votes! This is pretty amazing considering the DNC won’t even say that she has the votes.


403 posted on 03/20/2010 9:36:47 AM PDT by tatown (Obama is Kenyan for "turd")
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To: Dinah Lord

Good questions but I’m sure they don’t consider themselves arrogant, just enlightened while we are the benighted masses. This is going to date me a bit but I was thinking about a Star Trek episode where the crew was held hostage on a planet with a Greek God wannabe calling the shots. In the last moment, the Greek God’s “parents” showed up, took a firm hand on their bratty son and apologized to the crew. I would like to see an adult in the Democrat Party who is willing to say “enough” of this childishness.


404 posted on 03/20/2010 9:36:51 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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To: Eye of Unk

It sounds like buses are still pouring in...

God bless ‘em.


405 posted on 03/20/2010 9:37:22 AM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: RoseofTexas
I have to believe that or else I'll go mad!!

Have faith, Rose...His children will endure whatever that 'other guy' throws at us...

406 posted on 03/20/2010 9:38:09 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Fishtalk

Good analysis.

I’d say the one variable you left out is that a hardcore percentage of politicians have devoted their entire lives to fulfilling the Progressive (communist/socialist/collectivist...call it what you will) agenda.

They see this tyrannical piece of legislation as no less a blitz to the left than the Federal Reserve Act, FDR’s alphabet-soup bureaucracies, the elimination of a commodity-backed currency, the EPA, and the War on Poverty.

Each of those was a permanent mile-mark that has not been crossed-back since it was implement, and each one led to a hundred little bureaucracies, each chipping away at the Constitution and our civil liberties.

This push for SOCIALIST MEDICINE is just another of these mile-markers toward full-on communism.

As the Soviets declared, they’ll destroy us from within, through the Fabian approach of controlling the thought-process (education, entertainment, the courts, the media, etc.).

At the end of all these battles, there will be only one way back toward freedom.


407 posted on 03/20/2010 9:39:38 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: SE Mom
Have you any new info on Baird,McMahon and Tanner?

They are of the original NO voter. I'm praying they don't change their vote.

408 posted on 03/20/2010 9:39:52 AM PDT by BARLF
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To: caseinpoint
Isn't that what liberals Demonrats are? Bratty kids in a state of arrested development? LOL.
409 posted on 03/20/2010 9:40:11 AM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: Eye of Unk

and honest, a fine example as some Democrat supporters I know spout the ‘all politicians are crooks’ because they can’t explain their ill-informed Democrat votes, but just know they aren’t voting for a Republican


410 posted on 03/20/2010 9:40:55 AM PDT by Son House ("Warning! Warning!" "That does not compute" "Danger, Will Robinson!""Oh, the pain...the pain!")
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To: Eye of Unk
GOD bless Michele Bachmann! She is right on the front lines of the battle!

Bachmann/2012

411 posted on 03/20/2010 9:41:13 AM PDT by alicewonders
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To: Dinah Lord

I do hope there is some MASSIVE amount of photos taken of all of this, and it gets distributed in viral fashion on the internet, this is our shining moment of glory, this is our stand for FREEDOM, life, liberty and everything we have fought and died for to be what we are.


412 posted on 03/20/2010 9:41:35 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: BARLF

We have called Baird’s office numerous times (as well as sent emails). He is being very quiet but the fact that he is retiring would tell me that he is almost certainly a ‘Yes’ vote.


413 posted on 03/20/2010 9:41:53 AM PDT by tatown (Obama is Kenyan for "turd")
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To: Dinah Lord

“It sounds like buses are still pouring in... God bless ‘em.”

Did they bring their rifles?


414 posted on 03/20/2010 9:42:15 AM PDT by CriticalJ
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To: Dinah Lord
Instapundit has a few photos from DC up now. They say 25-30,000 and still arriving.
415 posted on 03/20/2010 9:42:57 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem)
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To: txrangerette
"There is no way that a bill not on the Floor for a vote is applicable to the Constitutional language she quoted."

It is important to keep in mind, that not everything that is unconstitutional may be remedied by the Judiciary. You can get into a lengthy scholarly debate with respect to the constitutionality of the so-called "Slaughter Rule", but weighing the deference that the Judiciary has historically given to the Congress on enrolled bills, it's unlikely that they'll address any constitutional infirmity on the process of passing the legislation.

Mark Levin isn't a stupid guy, and I suspect that personally (if yet not publicly acknowledged), he knows the very same thing. The Court is unlikely to find the problem justiciable.

If it passes, Constitutional challenges will need to be brought on the substance, and not the process.

416 posted on 03/20/2010 9:43:25 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: CriticalJ
;^D

Did they bring their rifles?

Tar, feathers and pitchforks would work for me!

417 posted on 03/20/2010 9:44:10 AM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: BARLF

Not since yesterday:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/GOP-Dems-are-bluffing-dont-have-the-votes-88683327.html

~snip~
Thirty-seven Democrats voted against the health care bill last November. Of those, five have publicly switched their votes to yes. That leaves 32. In addition, some others might change their votes to yes as well, and Cantor names six: Baird, Kosmas, McMahon, Murphy, Tanner, and Teague.

~snip~


418 posted on 03/20/2010 9:44:27 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: tatown

Us Patriots are making the difference, and Democrat House members know that sentiment isn’t going away if this passes.


419 posted on 03/20/2010 9:45:52 AM PDT by Son House ("Warning! Warning!" "That does not compute" "Danger, Will Robinson!""Oh, the pain...the pain!")
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To: tatown

I think fox news (and the other too) want the bigger fight that will come after the vote...and there will be a bigger fight...a constitutional one waged not only by the likes of Levin, but also the states who will be bankrupted by this bill


420 posted on 03/20/2010 9:47:23 AM PDT by Lets Be Frank
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