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Ryan: Dems Ramming "Shell" HC Bill Through Committee Monday
The American Spectator ^ | 3.11.10 | Philip Klein

Posted on 03/11/2010 3:49:03 PM PST by BarnacleCenturion

Rep. Paul Ryan says that Democrats are ready to ram a "shell" health care bill through the Budget Committee, on which he serves as ranking Republican member, to use as a vehicle to impose national health care.

In a phone interview with TAS Thursday afternoon, Ryan said that he expects Democrats to begin the complex process on Monday, under which they would have the Budget Committee approve a phantom bill by midnight, which they will then send over to the Rules Committee. At that point, the Rules Committee will strip out all of the language in the phantom bill, and insert the changes to the Senate bill that Democrats have negotiated.

"They don't have the votes right now, but they're creating the vehicle so that they can airdrop in whatever changes they want," Ryan said.

He said that Republicans are outnumbered 2-to-1 on his committee and don't have the votes to stop the bill there. Democrats will also be able to prevent Republicans from offering any amendments, but GOP members will be able to offer "motions to instruct" the Rules Committee, that Ryan said will be used highlight problems with the "unprecedented" step that Democrats are taking.

He said he expected Democrats to dust off last year's health care bills from the Education and Labor and Ways and Means Committees, to use as the vehicle for reconciliation changes.

He also warned against focusing too much on the reconciliation process in the Senate. "Reconciliation is a distraction," he said. "Once the House passes the Senate bill we have the massive new entitlement."

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; communism; democrats; healthcare; liberalfascism; obama; obamacare; palin; phantomhealthcare; socialism; socialisthealthcare
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To: BarnacleCenturion

I dont understand. Dont they have to pass the original Senate bill?


21 posted on 03/11/2010 4:17:48 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: La Enchiladita; All
"A phantom bill for phantom healthcare: perfect. How about making it an invisible bill too? Prez can sign with invisible pen, everyone’s happy, and then let’s get on with America as we are supposed to be."


22 posted on 03/11/2010 4:19:08 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: marstegreg

Mark Levin tonight on his radio program said, if this is done it is tantamount to the democrats declaring Marshall Law.


23 posted on 03/11/2010 4:19:08 PM PST by Texas Songwriter
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To: BarnacleCenturion

I know people keep saying “Wait until November” but that’s too little too late. These atrocities need to be stopped NOW!

Because once they are passed, the damage will be done and there will be no political will to repeal them - no matter who is in power.

It’s clear to me. Obama is on a Kamikaze mission. The only hope is to convince enough Dems not to join him. Since they care only about holding on to their office, you’d think the job wouldn’t be that difficult.

The tide is shifting. though slowly. We just need a couple high profile Dems to mutiny and the flood gates will open.


24 posted on 03/11/2010 4:19:18 PM PST by wilco200 (11/4/08 - The Day America Jumped the Shark)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
yikes...this was floated months ago, then got lost in the reconciliation shuffle.
25 posted on 03/11/2010 4:19:53 PM PST by stylin19a (Never buy a putter until you first get a chance to throw it)
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To: Mr. Wright

All we can do is stall and win in November. This is also unpopular with the voting public. Barry does not care, he hopes it all passes and is forgotten when HE has to face the people.


26 posted on 03/11/2010 4:20:01 PM PST by TJC
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To: Mr. Wright; ExTexasRedhead

“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.” ~~ President Ronald Reagan

We The People, Ray Stevens (obamacare) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc_-L4fyLUo


27 posted on 03/11/2010 4:20:43 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: Mr. Wright

We just need to keep stalling this until June-July. After that the dems are toast. It’s beyond the point that the dems who vote no won’t lose. It’s a lose-lose either way for them.


28 posted on 03/11/2010 4:20:55 PM PST by Indy Pendance (Gone Galt)
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To: Prole

What makes you think there will be elections in November?


29 posted on 03/11/2010 4:21:29 PM PST by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: what's up

Been saying Novena/S every single night. We DO need Divine Intervention.


30 posted on 03/11/2010 4:21:40 PM PST by cubreporter (Scott Brown turned it all around. The people CAN and DID make a difference!!!)
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To: Texas Songwriter

No kidding, it’ll be much more than protests.


31 posted on 03/11/2010 4:21:43 PM PST by Indy Pendance (Gone Galt)
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To: Mr. Wright

THANK YOU Mr. Wright. I remembered something out there like that but for the life of me I could not recall the name and therefore could not recall the quote.

IT IS TRUE AND IS HAPPENING.


32 posted on 03/11/2010 4:22:45 PM PST by cubreporter (Scott Brown turned it all around. The people CAN and DID make a difference!!!)
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To: TJC

See my post 22, gmta


33 posted on 03/11/2010 4:22:52 PM PST by Indy Pendance (Gone Galt)
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To: Texas Songwriter

What happened to the (Don’t Call it Slaughter, Even Though thats Her Name) Slaughter Solution? Which would give us a ‘deemed’ vote; on an unwritten Bill; to be signed by an undocumented President.

Now its a Shell bill? Will a Phantom bill be next? Or a Hologram bill?

W. The. F is going on?


34 posted on 03/11/2010 4:23:55 PM PST by PennsylvaniaMom (BOOM! Taste my nightstick! Sarah, making Shatner sound Shakespearean.)
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To: musicman

There ya go!!
:-)


35 posted on 03/11/2010 4:23:56 PM PST by La Enchiladita (wise gringa)
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To: cubreporter

Same here. God has frowned upon our Nation, and gave us a huge wake up warning. We need to bring Him back into our fold.


36 posted on 03/11/2010 4:24:45 PM PST by Indy Pendance (Gone Galt)
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To: historyrepeatz

That won’t matter once they pass this bill. We always think that that is their payback. Might be, but to them it is worth it.


37 posted on 03/11/2010 4:26:09 PM PST by dforest
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To: Indy Pendance

I also read about a Senate plan to propose infinite amendments, one at a time. It was in an article and quoted Tom Coburn. FR won’t accept the source.


38 posted on 03/11/2010 4:26:18 PM PST by La Enchiladita (wise gringa)
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To: Prole

The democrats left a long time ago. What we have here are socialists and outright communists.

Anybody on our side who can’t admit this fact... is one of THEM!!!


39 posted on 03/11/2010 4:26:59 PM PST by o2bfree (This president is giving me a headache!)
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To: Indy Pendance
God has frowned upon our Nation

I disagree.

40 posted on 03/11/2010 4:27:06 PM PST by glock rocks (Wait, what?)
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