A dizzying array of options to pass health care

Politico ^ | 3-9-10 | Patrick O'Connor

[tcrlaf]

Democrats are so afraid of being connected to this bill that they are willing to abrogate the responsibility the people voted them to take.

This thing is POLITICAL SUICIDE for the Democrat Party, and everybody knows it.

[Izzy Dunne]

All in favor of the House having a self-execution rule, say “AYE”!

[scory]

Do they really think that all these contortions will somehow relieve them of the responsibility for jamming this thing through? All it does in my mind is form a certainty that every single one of them is complicit in this.

[SnakeDoctor]

I understand how reconciliation is Constitutional — wherein the House passes the Senate bill, thus, with both chambers having passed the bill, it is able to be signed.

I do not understand how it would be Constitutional to have the Senate pass a bill and it be signed into law never having been passed by the House.

SnakeDoc

[Izzy Dunne]

This would allow them to deal with the Senate bill without forcing their members to go on record in support of unpopular items

I voted for it before I didn't vote for it.

[houeto]

DEATH TO THE DEMOCRAT PARTY!!!

[SnakeDoctor]

They’d be begging for a Supreme Court challenge on that one. The bill was never passed by the House, and thus cannot be Constitutionally signed into law by the President.

SnakeDoc

[Lazamataz]

Okay, let me get this straight.

The Senate voted for this.

The House won’t hold a vote at all.

And it will just become law.

Claire Wolfe, it is officially f***ing time.

[chuck_the_tv_out]

"self-execution"

That's the right name for it.

Use em and Lose em: The Hard Left in the Democratic Party is Using Healthcare as a Purge

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

they are willing to abrogate the responsibility the people voted them to take.

Well, yeah. This sentence shows that - note that it should say, "without any constituent support".

pass a health care bill without any Republican support

[Izzy Dunne]

House leaders could add a caveat to the rule that the Senate bill can only be signed into law if the Senate also passes the fixes.

Sorry, but the House has no jurisdiction over what the Senate or the President can and cannot do.

Perhaps this crusty old document could clear things up a bit.

[Nervous Tick]

>> Bill A would just become part of Bill B if the House passes Bill B

Then, clearly, a vote for Bill B **IS** a vote for bill A.

Honestly, who do they think they’re fooling?

[El Laton Caliente]

Circular firing squad?

How in H311 can the House PASS a bill with no vote? Where in parlimentary proceedure, let alone the Constitution can I find that!!!

[Secret Agent Man]

IF THIS IS SUCH A GREAT AND NECESSARY THING, WHY NOT JUST VOTE NORMALLY ON IT????

IF EVERYONE WANTS IT, WHERE’S THE RISK?

If they think this gets them safely through the 2010 election they have another thing coming. THey will be BURNT TOAST if they triy some pigsh1t maneuver like this.

[wilco200]

“Democrats are so afraid of being connected to this bill that they are willing to abrogate the responsibility the people voted them to take.”

They’re all connected. It’s simple.

If Obamacare passes = take it out on all Democrats. If Obamacare is killed = take it out on all Democrats.

They loose either way. The only hope at a future is for the few Dems who stood in the way the first time around.

[Lazamataz]

They’d be begging for a Supreme Court challenge on that one. The bill was never passed by the House, and thus cannot be Constitutionally signed into law by the President.

You know, at that point, I do believe every health insurer, every doctor, every citizen could simply ignore the law.

Outright.

[wiggen]

So its like nobody will know they supported them. And they believe,in this day and age of prevasive communication that they will get away with this? Or is this another way being floated to ‘trick’ house members into going along? Seriously? They’re both more desperate as well as dumber than i thought.

[clintonh8r]

Reminds me of the famous line of John McKay, former head coach of the Tampa Bay Bucs....

Reporter: Coach, what do you think of your team's execution?

McKay: Sounds like a good idea.

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

A foul stench emanates from the Congress these days. The Democrats must be destroyed. Democrats delenda est.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

All in favor of the House having a self-execution rule, say “AYE”!

BRAVO!

Oh...and AYE also!