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How Many Government Employees Are There?
Census Bureau Data | Self

Posted on 03/08/2010 5:47:40 AM PST by fruser1

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To: Texas resident

Not counting the military the largest employer in the county is - the county.

The school system alone has close to 7,000 workers - one for every 7.4 students.


21 posted on 03/08/2010 6:11:12 AM PST by PeteB570 (Airborne, the only way to get to work in the morning.)
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To: KrisKrinkle

Thanks.


22 posted on 03/08/2010 6:11:44 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Texas resident

Those studies show that government workers earn 150% more than equivalent term and skill positions in the private sector. But that way understates the difference in earnings.

I do not think that those studies include the factor of job risk. Most people in private sector jobs get laid off or fired — downsized — every so often. No so with FedGov.

I’d guesstimate that were that job risk to be factored in we’re looking at 300%.


23 posted on 03/08/2010 6:14:10 AM PST by bvw
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To: fruser1
"...there's a government employee for every 13.5 people in the country"

Amazing! Can some one tell me what justifies that many?

And then also tell me why the Census must hire 1.2 million ADDITIONAL government employees - to count an estimated 310 million people? Approximately 1 census worker to count each 258 people! Over the course of many months! Do they each count a couple a day and then go home?

24 posted on 03/08/2010 6:16:12 AM PST by drpix
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To: webschooner

Yeah, but who would pay them for producing nothing?


25 posted on 03/08/2010 6:19:00 AM PST by all the best
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To: Sacajaweau
USPS has held its workforce fairly steady for the last 40 years. Mail volumes have increased about 40 times in that period.

This was done by mechanizing, automating and roboticizing the way mail is handled.

Although there are hundreds of thousands of employees there, each is just a cog in a vast machine that becomes "more machine" and "less human" every year. The human beings continue to be vital to the machine but eventually that will come to an end.

It is conceivable that within 50 years the only employee will be the Postmaster General.

26 posted on 03/08/2010 6:22:41 AM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: drpix
Approximately 1 census worker to count each 258 people! Over the course of many months! Do they each count a couple a day and then go home?

Not even close.

They census "workers" only go out to the places where the forms are not mailed in.

In reality, what percentage will that be, 10-15%.

So these "workers" will have to contact 25-30 families over the course of six months, about one a week.

What a backbreaking job that has to be.

27 posted on 03/08/2010 6:23:08 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: drpix
The answer is the census work is done by a large number of part time workers. They do not put in in 8 hour days for 5 days a week. Some do, but the overwhelming majority don't. It's more like 4 hours today, 0 hours tomorrow, and maybe 0 hours the day after that ~ and sometimes there are breaks for weeks.

It depends on how many part timers they've got, and where the work takes place.

28 posted on 03/08/2010 6:24:51 AM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: fruser1
These numbers are particularly meaningful considering Friday's USA Today article which stated that the average federal worker makes 20% more than his private sector counterpart and that federal employee benefits cost 4 times those in the private sector.
29 posted on 03/08/2010 6:29:00 AM PST by bwc2221
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To: bvw; Texas resident
You'll have to show us the details of the studies. I seriously doubt government attorneys earn 1.5 times as much as their private sector counterparts.

Government engineers don't either.

You match job for job with the same skillsets and experience, the studies show the opposite.

Now, let's match CRIMINAL RECORDS. Your typical civil servant, e.g. a postal worker or one of the drones at Department of Defense (that's at the federal level eh) do not have CRIMINAL RECORDS!

Show me how Seven Eleven or AAA Refuse could run a business if they demanded that no one have a CRIMINAL RECORD.

Hey, even General Motors hires convicted felons!

The US government doesn't.

30 posted on 03/08/2010 6:29:10 AM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: muawiyah

You are in la-la land on this matter — YOU look up the studies. Also, you are mistaken about the felony class.

Does “SEIU” give you a clue?


31 posted on 03/08/2010 6:33:49 AM PST by bvw
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To: bvw
I posted concerning the federal government. SEIU could very well have all sorts of convicted felons in their mebership, but the federal government (in USPS and DOD, the two agencies I named) does not hire convicted felons.

Now, where are your studies that show that federal employees make more, doing the same job, than private sector employees.

32 posted on 03/08/2010 6:40:04 AM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: all the best

I know I know, that is the problem, but I consider that THEIR problem. I just want them to go away.

Maybe they can enslave the local 4-legged critters in their new far far away paradise. :)


33 posted on 03/08/2010 6:42:54 AM PST by webschooner (Lincoln Freed the Slaves ... Obama Enslaves the Free)
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To: muawiyah

Sorry, I’m no longer helping the lazy.


34 posted on 03/08/2010 6:43:30 AM PST by bvw
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To: fruser1
Do these numbers include contractors?

Here in Houston there are more contractors doing work for/at NASA than there are actual federal employees.

If not, the picture is WAY worse than these numbers paint it.

35 posted on 03/08/2010 6:45:26 AM PST by tx_eggman
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To: muawiyah; USS Alaska
Even part time, how many hours does it take 1.2 million to count only a small portion of 310 million - since (as USS Alaska pointed out) the Census only sends out "workers" to families that did not answer and mail back their Census forms?

If that small portion is 10-15%, or 31-46 million, that comes to 26-39 people to count for each "worker." Subtracting even 50% of the Census staff for "management" and "support" staff and that's still 52-78 people to count for each actual Census counter!

AMAZING!

36 posted on 03/08/2010 6:48:10 AM PST by drpix
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To: drpix
A lot of it has to do with statistical validation. Plus, mistakes are made filling out the forms and corrections acquired.

Once you take even the smallest part of this process out of the hands of the computers and the mail delivery service, that part is going to take far more time and effort.

37 posted on 03/08/2010 6:56:11 AM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: bvw

You didn’t even name the studies. (What I’m hoping for here is that you’ll refer to a rather famous private company in the field of comparing jobs that’s otherwise managed by classical Marxists).


38 posted on 03/08/2010 6:58:45 AM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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‘Way too many...


39 posted on 03/08/2010 6:59:03 AM PST by backhoe (All Across America, the Lights are being relit again...)
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To: fruser1

With the taxes we pay, trust me, we are ALL working for the government.


40 posted on 03/08/2010 7:00:50 AM PST by dfwgator
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