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It begins: House Dems backing away from Obama’s deadline for ObamaCare
Hot Air ^ | March 4, 2010 4:51 pm | Allahpundit

Posted on 03/04/2010 9:08:27 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

So how long did Gibbs’s “March 18 or bust” ultimatum last? Four hours maybe?

Decide for yourselves what this means. Either Obama’s own caucus no longer takes him seriously or he’s so removed from the political realities of this vote in the House that he’s placing literally impossible demands on them. “Both” is an acceptable answer.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer said the Democrats would like to get a final vote by Congress’ Easter break, which begins March 29. But he also said “the world doesn’t fall apart” if that timeline isn’t met — a nod to the many missed deadlines that have characterized the health overhaul effort so far.

Democratic leaders are contending with a host of undecided lawmakers who want to see the fine print before making a decision. Hoyer said final language and a cost estimate should come back from the Congressional Budget Office by the end of next week.

“At this point in time we don’t have a bill,” Hoyer said. “It’s a little difficult to count votes if you don’t have a bill.”…

“Every legislative lift is a heavy lift around here,” Pelosi said.

Here’s Madam Speaker in Baghdad Bob mode this afternoon, assuring the 34 percent or so of Americans who like the bill that, oh yes, it shall be passed. Not pictured here: Her lie about what Reid’s bill does to abortion funding. Speaking of which, the leader of the House’s pro-choice caucus insists that Stupak is bluffing about having the votes to sink the bill, but I’m getting a distinct Bob-ish vibe from her too. Quote:

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To: HiTech RedNeck

Carly Fiorina is bad news.


41 posted on 03/04/2010 10:06:07 PM PST by bronxville
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To: bronxville

So are the others.


42 posted on 03/04/2010 10:16:16 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Watch it, it’s funny, she looks like she is in meltdown mode.


43 posted on 03/04/2010 10:26:11 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Maybe they are starting to realize that this HC push is all about Bambi’s ego & nothing more!


44 posted on 03/04/2010 10:27:11 PM PST by blondee123 (Illinois ELECT Adam Kinzinger - http://www.electadam.com/)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Americans can’t really be “studied.” Only Americans understand Americanism. The rest of the world simply looks on in baffled fury.


45 posted on 03/04/2010 10:40:31 PM PST by karnage (worn arguments and old attitudes)
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To: neverdem

Me neither. Multiple problems: the abortion language, tax on high value insurance plans, which infuriates key RAT constituency. House really wants to tax “rich people” to make their union buddies happy.


46 posted on 03/04/2010 10:45:37 PM PST by freespirited (We're not the Party of No. We're the Party of HELL NO!!!)
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To: karnage

Heh heh heh. That’s why we have two groups in this country. “U.S. Citizens” and Americans. Most “U.S. Citizens” don’t understand what it means to be an American.


47 posted on 03/04/2010 10:45:59 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If you liked 2009, you're going to LOVE 2010!!!!!)
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To: bronxville
Carly Fiorina is bad news.

Carly Fiorina: She screwed HP, now she wants to screw California and America!

48 posted on 03/04/2010 10:55:10 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (Envy is the Lifeblood of Liberalism)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The bill is dead. Bury it.


49 posted on 03/04/2010 11:57:42 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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To: bboop
Yeh, he might be used to a different constituency — one that he can sweet-talk and threaten.

Yes, poor blacks on the south side of Chicago. He and his hustler buddies like Rezko played them like a fiddle. He just assumed he could manipulate all Americans like that.

Obama's "community organizing" left Chicago neighborhoods in ruins.

Grim proving ground for Obama's housing policy

"About 99 of the units are vacant, many rendered uninhabitable by unfixed problems, such as collapsed roofs and fire damage. Mice scamper through the halls. Battered mailboxes hang open. Sewage backs up into kitchen sinks. In 2006, federal inspectors graded the condition of the complex an 11 on a 100-point scale - a score so bad the buildings now face demolition."

He just destroyed these people's lives for his own profit and that of his cronies and he's trying to impose the same welfare state destruction on the whole country.

50 posted on 03/05/2010 12:05:38 AM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Gibbs is gay.

Not physically. In every other sense.


51 posted on 03/05/2010 1:15:30 AM PST by StopObama2012 (CLICK ME to expose Osaudi)
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To: Frantzie

Screw the timeline, just say no!!! Haven’t you seen the commercial, this your brain on Uh_Bummer..


52 posted on 03/05/2010 3:38:53 AM PST by aeonspromise
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To: mylife

What possible government plan will we get if we want them to focus on the economy?

The only way to fix the economy is for the government to shrink with roll backs for corporate taxes, capital gains taxes and income taxes. I don’t see this happening.

I like Obama p*ssing away his presidency and political capital on trying to implement socialized health care, as long as it doesn’t pass.

I don’t want it to go down in flames, I want them to continue wasting time. If Obamacare goes down in flames they will start immediately on giving amnesty to 15 million illegals, not fixing the economy.


53 posted on 03/05/2010 3:50:15 AM PST by listenhillary (the only reason government wants to be our provider is so it may become our master)
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To: unkus

I hope they go home during Easter break and are inundated with mad as hell voters threatening each and every one of their jobs.
Throw the bums out is gonna be the theme of this coming election.


54 posted on 03/05/2010 3:59:49 AM PST by Joe Boucher (Just say NO to RINOs.)
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To: unkus

Adolph under estimated America too.
Not sure which one is more evil.


55 posted on 03/05/2010 4:01:37 AM PST by Joe Boucher (Just say NO to RINOs.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

OBAMANOMICS—TRICKLE DOWN DESTRUCTION of the economy
Bambi doesn’t keep his promises...so buyer beware!

SET THEIR LOCAL AND DC LINES ON FIRE!

PLEASE ASK THEM TO REPEAL THE BIG NEW FEES in TRICARE for Life, the retired Military over 65 secondary health ins. which they passed in a DOD bill. They promised our Military these benefits, and our Military have earned them.

Sen Scott Brown’s number is 202-224-4543
Capitol Hill switchboard is 202-224-3121

Lots of local demwit phone numbers on this thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2408217/posts

Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military’s secondary health ins. (DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011 NEEDS TO BE REPEALED!

OBAMA’s WAR ON SENIORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2433867/posts/

New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake.

Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security, http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security

Health Care Rationing for Seniors Another Problem in New Obama Plan http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html

Medicare tax may apply to investment income (ObamaCare tax hike)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2460988/posts

Obama: No reduced Medicare benefits in health care reform
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/28/obama.health.care/index.html

Will healthcare reform mean cuts in Medicare for seniors?
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2009/1017/will-healthcare-reform-mean-cuts-in-medicare-for-seniors

Health Reform’s Hidden Victims Young people and seniors would pay a high price for ObamaCare.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203517304574306303720472842.html

SOCIALIZED MED THREAD http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2464538/posts

MILITARY & Retired MILITARY
Veterans’ G.I. Bill benefits MIA
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2464680/posts
TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.) http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09
Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w/

By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009

Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.

The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.

Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.

“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.


56 posted on 03/05/2010 8:04:04 AM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: Frantzie

We need to kill it this year, and flip at least 1 house in Nov to keep it killed, or we will fight this for the next 3 years!

target these dems
PLEASE CALL! DC OFFICE LOCAL OFFICE State District
Harry Mitchell (202) 225-2190 (480) 946-2411 AZ 5th District
Gabrielle Giffords (202) 225-2542 (520) 881-3588 AZ 8th District
Ann Kirkpatrick (202) 225-2315 (928) 226-6914 AZ 1st District
Jerry McNerney (202) 225-1947 925-833-0643 CA 11th District
John Salazar 202-225-4761 970-245-7107 CO 3rd District
Jim Himes (202) 225-5541 (866) 453-0028 CT 4th District
Alan Grayson (202) 225-2176 (407) 841-1757 FL 8th District
Bill Foster (202) 225-2976 630-406-1114 IL 14th District
Baron Hill 202 225 5315 812 288 3999 IN 9th District
Mark Schauer (202) 225-6276 (517) 780-9075 MI 7th District
Gary Peters (202) 225-5802 (248) 273-4227 MI 9th District
Dina Titus (202) 225-3252 702-256-DINA (3462) NV 3rd District
Carol Shea-Porter (202) 225-5456 (603) 743-4813 NH 1st District
Tim Bishop (202) 225-3826 (631) 696-6500 NY 1st District
John Hall (202) 225-5441 (845) 225-3641 x49371 NY 19th District
Bill Owens (202) 225-4611 (315) 782-3150 NY 23rd District
Mike Arcuri (202)225-3665 (315)793-8146 NY 24th District
Dan Maffei (202) 225-3701 (315) 423-5657 NY 25th District
Earl Pomeroy (202) 225-2611 (701) 224-0355 ND At-Large District
Steven Driehaus (202) 225-2216 (513) 684-2723 OH 1st District
Mary Jo Kilroy (202) 225-2015 (614) 294-2196 OH 15th District
Zach Space (202) 225-6265 (330) 364-4300 OH 18th District
Kathy Dahlkemper (202) 225-5406 (814) 456-2038 PA 3rd District
Patrick Murphy (202) 225-4276 (215) 826-1963 PA 8th District
Christopher Carney (202) 225-3731 (570) 585-9988 PA 10th District
Paul Kanjorski (202) 225-6511 (570) 825-2200 PA 11th District
John Spratt (202) 225-5501 (803)327-1114 SC 5th District
Tom Perriello (202) 225-4711 (276) 656-2291 VA 5th District
Alan Mollohan (202) 225-4172 (304) 623-4422 WVA 1st District
Nick Rahall (202) 225-3452 (304) 252-5000 WVA 3rd District
Steve Kagen (202) 225-5665 (920) 437-1954 WI 8th District


57 posted on 03/05/2010 8:05:28 AM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: unkus

The Marxists have to come home sometime.


58 posted on 03/05/2010 8:09:38 AM PST by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Well put.


59 posted on 03/05/2010 10:24:53 AM PST by karnage (worn arguments and old attitudes)
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To: GailA

Great list!!!!!!!


60 posted on 03/05/2010 12:00:58 PM PST by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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