Posted on 03/03/2010 6:45:57 PM PST by onyx
The Senate's healthcare bill would lose 12 Democratic votes in the House, Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.) said Wednesday.
Stupak, the sponsor of an amendment to the House healthcare bill which barred federal subsidies for health plans covering abortion, said that 12 lawmakers who had previously supported healthcare reform legislation in the House.
"It's accurate to say there are at least 12 of us who voted for healthcare that have indicated to the speaker and others that unless you change this language, we will vote against it," Stupak said during an appearance on MSNBC.
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That would be a pleasant surprise.
More blue dogs and cold paws!
Evil, or just Stupid?
October/November 2009, Health Care was stalled in the House, and the main sticking point was government funded abortions. There were enough Dems opposed to abortion who refused to vote for the HC bill if it contained any abortion language.
Representative Stupak (D) introduced his amendment that prohibited any government money from the HC bill being used to fund abortions. This essentially would end all abortions, as no medical procedures outside the Government HC System can be done. No going to a doctor and paying him directly for anything. Thus, with his amendment, ALL abortions would be illegal.
This amendment, if passed, would give the above ‘Pro-Life’ Democrats a green light to vote for the HC bill.
Not enough Democrats supported the Stupak Amendment for it to pass. Many Democrats were vociferously opposed to it. It could only pass with Republican votes.
National Right to Life favored the Stupak Amendment, and insisted that Republicans vote for it. Further, they threatened any Republican who didn’t vote for it with their active opposition to that Republican during this falls election.
The Republicans caved, even those who could see the eventual outcome, right down to the last man. One hundred percent voted for the Stupak Amendment, along with a bunch of Dems who were opposed to abortions. Stupak handily passed.
Nobody believed the Amendment would stick; eventually it would/will be overridden in some fashion. Abortion is the Prime Sacrament of the Left, and will not be denied government funding, let alone be made illegal.
With a green light, the ’Pro-Life’ Dems could vote for HC, and although many hard-line Leftists were angry, enough of them also could see the end game, and agreed to vote pass HC.
A couple days later HC passed the House.
Everyone knew how this would play out, and it did. Rush spoke about it on his show.
I am of the opinion even National Right to Life knew it would play out this way. I’m not aware of anyone who thought otherwise. That leaves us with two opinions of their leadership;
1. They are so locked into their ‘stop abortion at all costs’ viewpoint that they can’t operate with a strategy that goes beyond 24 hours. Liberals like to say that ‘conservatives are stupid and easily lead’, this situation is circumstantial proof that Leftists are right from time to time. This is the NRTL Stupid Strategy.
OR
2. They have been in cahoots with the Pro-Abort crowd on this, and were complicit in getting HC passed in the House, HC which will include a monthly premium from all of us to fund abortions. This would be the NRTL Evil Strategy.
Either way, too stupid, or just evil, they are unfit to lead the movement to reduce/end abortions. Their thuggish actions have brought us to the brink of the enslavement of 300 million Americans, ending of the most advanced medical care in the entire history of the world, and will lead, ironically, to Chinese style government mandated and government funded abortions.
I am unaware of any other organization that played such a pivotal role against Americans in this HC fight.
They won’t because in the end they are Democrats (soulless, stupid, and morally bankrupt).
Piglosi might “change the language” but that’s about it. The abortion stuff will still remain in there.
Show ‘em the rope, and point at the branch.
/Texan
"It's a very big mistake," Brown said of the Democrats' use of the parliamentary tactic. "The American people right now don't want political chicanery and parliamentary maneuvering to basically push through something. They should start over."
Asked if the use of reconciliation could paralyze the Senate legislatively, as Republicans have threatened, Brown said, "We'll soon find out, won't we?"
Thanks.
Here’s the wavering ones or the ones Obama is trying to get.
CONGRESSMAN JASON ALTMIRE
202-225-2565
CONGRESSMAN BOYD
202-225-5235
CONGRESSMAN LINCOLN DAVIS
202-225-6831
CONGRESSMAN HERSETH – SANDLER
202-225-2801
CONGRESSMAN FRANK KRATOVIL
202-225-5311
CONGRESSMAN BETSY MARKEY
202-225-4676
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CONGRESSMAN JIM MATTHESON ***
Obama just nominated his brother to a federal judgeship TODAY!
202-225-3011
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CONGRESSMAN HEATH SHULER
202-225-6401
CONGRESSMAN JOHN TANNER
202-225-4714
CONGRESSMAN SCOTT MURPHY
202-225-5614
LOL. You’ve just now surprised me! LOL.
Yes, thanks for posting the quote. I saw that when I read the article.
Yep, a strong high branch. That’ll do it just fine.
I’m kind of surprised that they keep pushing it. Don’t they see the tide turning against them?
What will happen is Peloski will promise the blue dogs that the abortion parts of the Senate bill will be overturned in the reconciliation bill, telling them to go ahead and vote for the Senate bill. Then after the House passes the Senate version, all of a sudden the reconciliation bill is not passed; and the republic is stuck with taxpayer-funded abortion on demand Senate bill that obamma quickly signs.
the rats know they’re finished. they are engaging in a scorched earth policy at this point.
I see dozens of new judges and ambassadors in the future.
Take a look at this!
159 Big Spending, Big Government Features of Obamacare !!!!!
There is no constitutionally viable way to change the language of the EXISTING Senate bill.
The House has to vote: Yea or Nay.
Those are the ONLY choices...otherwise a whole new bill has to get through the Senate.
I'll say it again, THIS BILL IS DEAD. IT'S TOXIC.
There are not 150 members of the House that will vote yes on the Senate bill...with a "promise" from the Senate that they will amend it adequately via reconciliation.
It's not gonna happen.
“It’s accurate to say there are at least 12 of us who voted for healthcare...”
Um, no, it isn’t accurate to say that you voted for “healthcare”.
Sometimes a soldier just doesn’t know when to stop fighting.
KIRK: Bones, isn’t there anything we can do to save Obamacare?
McCoy: I’M A DOCTOR NOT A MIRACLE WORKER.
KIRK: Perhaps we could....
McCoy: It’s dead Jim.
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