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To: onyx

Evil, or just Stupid?

October/November 2009, Health Care was stalled in the House, and the main sticking point was government funded abortions. There were enough Dems opposed to abortion who refused to vote for the HC bill if it contained any abortion language.

Representative Stupak (D) introduced his amendment that prohibited any government money from the HC bill being used to fund abortions. This essentially would end all abortions, as no medical procedures outside the Government HC System can be done. No going to a doctor and paying him directly for anything. Thus, with his amendment, ALL abortions would be illegal.

This amendment, if passed, would give the above ‘Pro-Life’ Democrats a green light to vote for the HC bill.

Not enough Democrats supported the Stupak Amendment for it to pass. Many Democrats were vociferously opposed to it. It could only pass with Republican votes.

National Right to Life favored the Stupak Amendment, and insisted that Republicans vote for it. Further, they threatened any Republican who didn’t vote for it with their active opposition to that Republican during this falls election.

The Republicans caved, even those who could see the eventual outcome, right down to the last man. One hundred percent voted for the Stupak Amendment, along with a bunch of Dems who were opposed to abortions. Stupak handily passed.

Nobody believed the Amendment would stick; eventually it would/will be overridden in some fashion. Abortion is the Prime Sacrament of the Left, and will not be denied government funding, let alone be made illegal.

With a green light, the ’Pro-Life’ Dems could vote for HC, and although many hard-line Leftists were angry, enough of them also could see the end game, and agreed to vote pass HC.

A couple days later HC passed the House.

Everyone knew how this would play out, and it did. Rush spoke about it on his show.

I am of the opinion even National Right to Life knew it would play out this way. I’m not aware of anyone who thought otherwise. That leaves us with two opinions of their leadership;

1. They are so locked into their ‘stop abortion at all costs’ viewpoint that they can’t operate with a strategy that goes beyond 24 hours. Liberals like to say that ‘conservatives are stupid and easily lead’, this situation is circumstantial proof that Leftists are right from time to time. This is the NRTL Stupid Strategy.

OR

2. They have been in cahoots with the Pro-Abort crowd on this, and were complicit in getting HC passed in the House, HC which will include a monthly premium from all of us to fund abortions. This would be the NRTL Evil Strategy.

Either way, too stupid, or just evil, they are unfit to lead the movement to reduce/end abortions. Their thuggish actions have brought us to the brink of the enslavement of 300 million Americans, ending of the most advanced medical care in the entire history of the world, and will lead, ironically, to Chinese style government mandated and government funded abortions.

I am unaware of any other organization that played such a pivotal role against Americans in this HC fight.


4 posted on 03/03/2010 6:49:34 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Thanks.
Here’s the wavering ones or the ones Obama is trying to get.

CONGRESSMAN JASON ALTMIRE
202-225-2565

CONGRESSMAN BOYD
202-225-5235

CONGRESSMAN LINCOLN DAVIS
202-225-6831

CONGRESSMAN HERSETH – SANDLER
202-225-2801

CONGRESSMAN FRANK KRATOVIL
202-225-5311

CONGRESSMAN BETSY MARKEY
202-225-4676

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CONGRESSMAN JIM MATTHESON ***
Obama just nominated his brother to a federal judgeship TODAY!
202-225-3011
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CONGRESSMAN HEATH SHULER
202-225-6401

CONGRESSMAN JOHN TANNER
202-225-4714

CONGRESSMAN SCOTT MURPHY
202-225-5614


9 posted on 03/03/2010 6:53:41 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Actually, in the end, the house vote makes NO DIFFERENCE. It didn’t help the Senate pass their bill, which was written in the Senate and attached to an entirely different bill (the reason for that is so the senate could later take up the house bill if they wanted).

So there’s no point in “blaming” anybody for helping the house pass it’s bill. If the house had never passed a bill, we’d still be sitting here with the Senate bill and reconciliation.

And at least we have votes on record for the house bill, which helps us, not hurts us.

And lastly, this gives cover to democrats who want to vote against the final bill, because they can say they voted for the house version.


25 posted on 03/03/2010 8:31:13 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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