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To: John O

“Chapter and verse, please.

Many. Starting in the garden when the serpent tempted Eve and continuing right through revelation when the dragon is cast into the lake of fire. The devil (Satan, Lucifer, Allah, Baal etc) works against God throughout the entire bible”

Satan’s job is to tempt humans so that they have free choice. Without that there would be no need for this world altogether. This is not “working against G-d,” just working as an agent provocateur. You are confusing your interpretation of scripture with proof of that interpretation. If there is an independent enemy of the Creator and Master of heaven and earth, then He is neither Creator nor Master.

Let’s stop right now. This is going nowhere.


179 posted on 03/08/2010 3:44:38 PM PST by Eleutheria5 ( Two-state solution: A bad idea whose time has gone.)
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To: Eleutheria5
Satan’s job is to tempt humans so that they have free choice. Without that there would be no need for this world altogether. This is not “working against G-d,” just working as an agent provocateur. You are confusing your interpretation of scripture with proof of that interpretation. If there is an independent enemy of the Creator and Master of heaven and earth, then He is neither Creator nor Master.

Does satan seek to destroy us because that is his job or because that is the nature that he claimed for himself when he tried to take God's place?

Mankind is evil enough to choose or reject God on our own without an enemy seducing us away from God.

Please see De 33:27, Psm 42:9, 43:2 and especially Psm 74:10

And just for fun, Jas 4:4.

All these verses establish that God has enemies. The question is who is that enemy. There are people alive today who hate God. they are His enemy. Does that make Him less of a creator or less of God because some part of His creation rejects Him? I don't think so.

180 posted on 03/08/2010 5:54:23 PM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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