Posted on 03/03/2010 11:09:56 AM PST by ConjunctionJunction
Republicans are preparing to raise points of order and other roadblocks to the healthcare bill, a member of the Senate GOP leadership said Tuesday evening.
Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.), the fourth-ranking Senate Republican who serves as chairman of the Republican Policy Committee, said the GOP is prepared for a number of scenarios in which they would seek to slow down or halt passage of healthcare legislation once it comes back before the Senate.
"I still think it creates a lot of problems when it comes back to the Senate because there will be lots of points of order that will lie against the bill in the Senate, and obviously, we will, hopefully, have the opportunity to raise some of those," Thune said of the health bill during an appearance on Fox News.
At issue is the new bill of healthcare legislation changes the House is expected to pass under budget reconciliation rules. Under those rules, the legislation only has to achieve a simple majority in the Senate instead of the 60 normally needed to end a filibuster. Such a maneuver would effectively sidestep Republican opposition to the health bill.
"You know, I don't want to concede that it's going to pass for sure yet," Thune said. "I still think that there's a lot of clock left in this game."
Republicans have fewer procedural options under reconciliation rules, which limits debate and is designed to eventually force votes on a piece of legislation. The GOP might object, though, for instance, to whether the new legislation is germane to the budget. These points are decided by the Senate parliamentarian, but could be overruled by the president of the Senate.
"I think we have to be prepared for all types of different scenarios and sort of game this out," Thune explained. "I mean, our goal at the end is to stop a really bad bill from passing."
"So my guess is, before this is all said and done, that if they want to pass it, they may be able to pass it, but we're going to do everything we can on the side of the American people to try and stop a really bad bill from passing," the South Dakota senator added.
OBAMANOMICS—TRICKLE DOWN DESTRUCTION of the economy
SET THEIR LOCAL AND DC LINES ON FIRE!
PLEASE ASK THEM TO REPEAL THE BIG NEW FEES in TRICARE for Life, the retired Military over 65 secondary health ins. which they passed in a DOD bill. They promised our Military these benefits, and our Military have earned them.
Bambi doesn’t keep his promises...so buyer beware!
Sen Scott Brown’s number is 202-224-4543
Capitol Hill switchboard is 202-224-3121
Lots of local demwit phone numbers on this thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2408217/posts
Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military’s secondary health ins.
(DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011 NEEDS TO BE REPEALED!
OBAMA’s WAR ON SENIORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2433867/posts/
New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake. http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html
Friday, February 19, 2010
Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security
http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security
Health Care Rationing for Seniors Another Problem in New Obama Plan http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html
Medicare tax may apply to investment income (ObamaCare tax hike)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2460988/posts
SOCIALIZED MED THREAD http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2462963/posts
TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:
http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html
This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.) http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf
http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/hcva09/hcva110609-1.htm
Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09
Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries
Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w/
By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009
Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.
Snip The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.
Snip
Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.
“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.
This is an issue for the House, not the Senate.
IF we don’t kill it, and flip at least one house in Nov we will have 3 more years to fight this crap!
If the Bill reaches the Senate for Reconciliation, it has passed the House and would become Law, and that is the Democrats REAL goal.
Damn good idea there!!
They don't give a damn about phone calls or peaceful protests.
One problem with this, as I understand it. The first step in this reconciliation process, is for the House to pass the Senate bill.
So even if the reconciliation process is blocked, Bambi still has the Senate bill, passed by both chambers, that he can sign into law. Yes? No?
Hear, hear....
Great post.
I don't understand what has happened.
Is this the same bill that was passed in the Senate? Are they supposed to be reconciling the House and Senate versions of the bill?
What about the "new changes" that Obama added after last week's meeting? Is that in the bill? Wouldn't that make it a new bill requiring new votes in the House and Senate?
Or are they using a budget reconciliation process to vote on a new bill, discarding the old bill?
Where are we now? I've lost track of things.
-PJ
As I understand it, the House passed their version of a health care bill, and the Senate passed a different version of a health care bill. The House has to pass the Senate’s version first, and then they will try to “reconcile” the bills. At this point, Obama can’t sign anything, because the House and the Senate must ultimately pass identical bills, which they have not done yet.
Right, but once the House passes the Senate version, in order to proceed with reconciliation, then both would have passed the same bill, the Senate bill.
Yes, but the House hasn’t passed the Senate’s version, yet. I think we’re both saying the same thing. LOL!
Nice! I love it!
Cheers
I do HOPE this will be the case. My question is, who will drag Mitchie the Kid out from under his desk to join the fray??!!
They’re on to us already...it demands all your info and trust me it will be used to send you everything the DNC sends out.
So -- as I said before--- it works beautifully for me. And my FILTER works beautifully to weed out Obamunist spam!
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