Posted on 02/28/2010 5:58:10 AM PST by paul544
GORDON BROWN is on course to remain prime minister after the general election as a new Sunday Times poll reveals that Labour is now just two points behind the Tories.
The YouGov survey places David Cameron’s Conservatives on 37%, as against 35% for Labour — the closest gap between the parties in more than two years.
It means Labour is heading for a total of 317 seats, nine short of an overall majority, with the Tories languishing on a total of just 263 MPs. Such an outcome would mean Brown could stay in office and deny Cameron the keys to No 10.
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England is in the middle of a Kamikazi dive to the death and can not pull out. I would advise all conservative Britains to make escape plans.
Polling games... we shall see.
LLS
The “Conservatives” are left of Obama, so who cares?
You have to hit rock bottom.
Polling games? Maybe so, I saw the demographics and it seems they polled only “adults”, the least accurate method available.
Britain appears hopeless.
They’ve allowed too many immigrants in, unions continue to have far too much influence, too many folks are on the government gravy train, just too many eaters who contribute absolutely nothing to society and exist by leeching off of other people.
This is where the US is headed if we don’t stop Government run health care and any number of Obama’s socialist programs.
The UK and Europe in general are lost and will continue to spiral into irrelevance.
It’s a case where the Conservatives want to be Labour-lite just like many Republicans want to be Democrat-lite. If the electorate in Britain are given the choices they have they might as well stay with the devil they know as opposed to the devil they don’t.
I don’t buy it.... I have to believe they have enough of this clown.
Indeed. This is just one poll (other show the Tory lead is 8/9 points) but the signs and trends are not good.
If Brown and Labour are re-elected (even if it is just as a minority government) then Britain deserves to slide into hell and beyond.
The Tories are far, far, far from perfect, but I would rather have them in control than that smug socialist buffoon Gordon Brown.
I agree.
Seems like the Tories should be stronger on the anti-immigration front, support a full public vote on EU membership, run on massive government cuts, etc, etc.
At least from what I read and see across the pond, the Tories are nothing but Labor-lite. Why do they not draw clear, bright lines between themselves and the lefties?
I understand Europe doesn’t have talk radio and Fox News, but you’d think with as bad as things have gotten that the people would finally wise up a bit. Apparently not I guess.
You can't really generalise about the media across Europe - there are widely differing spectra in different European countries. As far as Britain is concerned, however, what you say may be true (although the Murdoch-owned Sky News is a theoretical equivalent of Fox, but far less overtly partisan). But that doesn't mean there's no viewpoint from the right in British media. On the contrary, the British national daily newspapers (for which there's no exact equivalent in the US) are overwhelmingly conservative or at least right-leaning in outlook. The only unambiguously left-leaning exceptions are the Mirror, Guardian and Independent, the combined circulations of which come nowhere near their right-leaning competitors.
So if media is not the excuse for why the Brits seem to vote so far left, what is?
I was trying to give them the benefit of the doubt, and assumed their media (from what I’d seen) is just so far left (along with the rest of the intellectual elite) that it is just very hard for a conservative to win.
But if there are plenty of right of center outlets, why the hell have the Brits gone so left since WWII (with the exception of the Thatcher years). I mean, Labor has been in power for a long time now, and Brown has been a disaster, yet he is only a couple back in the polls?
Have the British truly just thrown in the towel, decided to live for today and written off any future? I know that is pretty much what has happened in some Western European places, but I’d hoped the Brits would have a little more spine.
The simplest answer is that the British electorate didn't believe it was voting far left. The reason why Labour became electable again under Blair, with three straight victories after years in the wilderness, was precisely because he'd persuaded the party to move towards the centre by rejecting the fundamental credo of socialism - the state ownership of the means of production, distribution and exchange, which was expunged from the party's constituion. True, after the last election Labour has drifted leftwards again under Brown: but it's still far distant from the full-blooded socialism of the 1945-51 Attlee government (arguably the only truly socialist British government), under which I had the misfortune to spend my early years.
The difficulty for British voters now is that they're faced with three major parties all clustered vaguely around the political centre ground - one soft right, one soft left and the third vacillating between the two. Nowhere in the mainstream is there a party unambiguously of the right or unambiguously of the left to turn to.
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