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Let's stop playing make believe with the Hispanic vote. Hispanics will always vote Democrat and if selling out our border security is the price of getting them to vote Republican we have to tell them "thanks but no thanks." I rather go forward without them because we don't need anymore socialist in our "tent."
1 posted on 02/26/2010 6:08:35 AM PST by jmaroneps37
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Part of the problem is that Conservatives and Republicans have done a poor job articulating their position on the number one issue among Hispanics - immigration.

While the vast majority of us are in favor of LEGAL immigration and against the illegal variety, the general feeling in the Hispanic community is that we’re against immigration, period, and as such means that we hate them and don’t want them here.

Couple that with the dims actively courting them and sucking up to them by supporting illegal immigration, it is unsurprising that Hispanics vote overwhelmingly for democrats.

Rather than giving up, we should be searching for a better way to get out the message that we actually DO like Hispanics and, if they’re willing to respect our laws and come into this country legally, we will welcome them here.


32 posted on 02/26/2010 7:12:21 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (The liberals are asking us to give Obama more time. Is 25 to life enough?)
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Hispanics will always vote Democrat and if selling out our border security is the price of getting them to vote Republican we have to tell them "thanks but no thanks." I rather go forward without them because we don't need anymore socialist in our "tent."

O' rilly?

That would be news to my father, mother, myself and most of the family on my father's side. My family was and is very "conservative". My father was a Marine as were two of my unlces and a couple of cousins. He spoke spanish fluently and was served our country from Lebanon to Vietnam.

My father trained Cubans near Ft. Myers in the 60's and fought while on TDY in Central and South America. When Kennedy visited Dallas, he didn't bat an eye. He hated him for cutting loose the men he helped train.

There is no "Hispanic" race. That's a myth that the dems and the MSM have sold to the majority of this country. The immigrant from Cuba has nothing in common with the peasant farmer worker from Guatemala or the photographer from Argentina. The Colombian journalist or police officer that made up Los Pepes have nothing in common with current Cuban journalist or Mexican cops.

He never allowed us to be labeled as a "hypen American", cause he said that all the blood he ever saw from his men was red. The only difference I grew up knowing was the difference between officers kids and enlisted mens kids.

There are lazy, welfare sucking leeches that are hispanic (insert country of origin) just like there are white trash POS that live in 'Frisco, Chicago and Kansas cooking meth and humping their cousin.

My 4 kids have Irish and Mexican blood. The one in college read Atlas Shrugged, gave a report on the Road To Serfdom and picked up a nasty habit for shooting skeet and pistols. My other ones are also labeled "hispanic" by the high school and middle school because of me. Guess what? The make fun of the science teachers yapping about Global warming and "diversity".

The "hispanics" from Texas that have been here since the 1800's like my mother's family or came over during the revolution in the early 1920's like my dad's are pretty conservative. They go to church, fought in our armed forces (6 uncles and many other cousins), run schools, work as nurses, doctors, lawyers, and are mixed just like Italians, Germans, Poles, and the rest.

Your rant about pandering to hispanics is correct. The Republican party shouldn't or advocate any "group" or "race" based policies, but on PRINCIPLES of limited government. I heard my father and one of my liberal aunts argue and he told her that if she wanted to suck off the government nipple and have schools taught in spanish all she had to do is look at how the American Indian and African-American turned out as opposed to the Chinese, Japanese, Jewish and German immigrants. One set let the government "take care" of them, the other group was also discriminated against but flourished.

You may not know any conservative "hispanics" but I know a lot of them. If you're going to "kick them out of the party" or make their inclusion in your "tent" a pain in the a##. Well you're going to have a tough time winning any elections in Texas my friend. "Hispanics" make up about 35% of the population. If they vote en masse with African Americans in Texas, about 15% .... well you're getting the picture.

Remember the MSM and the libs want to divide us. We need to fight on principles together against the liberal pukes and not based on the fact that I like menudo, tortillas, chorizo and barbacoa, while you like.... whatever it is you like.

38 posted on 02/26/2010 7:24:56 AM PST by erman (Our President-A modest man, who has much to be modest about.)
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Why?

it’s easy...anyone under 45 has been brainwashed to treat anything considered minority with kid gloves including believing lies even if it avoids besmirching a what is thought to be a non white group.

This is why whites are voluntarily giving up their dominance in a nation they built mostly and ran for 200 years.

Now whites will be a minority and everyone will be happy in our new socialist state where western civilization is an archaic study.

and I will go further...I’d wager 40% of freepers are all for it...we already know the Left gave it up a generation or two ago...can’t be considered racist now can we and all tho9se old white folks we admired...well heck...they were racist by God.

meanwhile anything minority heritage wise is to be preserved, studied and celebrated

I hope everyone will be happy in the new world where Shakespeare is a dirty word..I’ll miss it but my kids will have to endure it or fight against it.


63 posted on 02/26/2010 9:03:17 AM PST by wardaddy (I'm waiting for Epic Beard Man the movie.)
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I’m sure you’d like to take issue with this...


77 posted on 02/26/2010 2:38:11 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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You’re right, we shouldn’t try to attract socially conservative, pro-business voters to our party.

It is one thing to say that the GOP shouldn’t betray our principles in a pointless attempt to attract pro-amnesty Hispanics, but to say that we shouldn’t reach out to Hispanics, period, is not only stupid, but prejudiced (and thus something for Democrats, not Republicans, to do).

Hispanics voted around 45% for President Bush in 2004, and, of course, certain Hispanic groups (Cuban-Americans being most prominent, but also Venezuelans, Colombians, and Puerto Ricans born and raised in PR) voted for President Bush in much higher percentages. Painting all Hispanics with a broad brush is idiotic.

So the GOP share of the Hispanic vote dropped by 12% or so in 2008? That means that, like some members of other ethnic groups, many Hispanics were angry at Republicans and some were fooled by Obama. If you’re going to ignore (or alienate) every group most of whose members voted for Obama you’re going to leave the GOP with a small (and decreasing) electorate.

We should welcome conservatives irrespective of background. That doesn’t mean that we pander in betrayal of our principles, but it does mean that we don’t insult people.


81 posted on 02/26/2010 4:03:26 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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Let's stop playing make believe with the Hispanic vote. Hispanics will always vote Democrat ...

Here is a plot of how Hispanics and other groups voted in two different elections in Houston some years ago. Data used to create the plot were published in the Houston Chronicle right after each of the two elections. As I remember, in some years the Chronicle tabulated votes by the groupings I used. Other times they just reported votes by areas of the city -- if you know the predominant racial and economic makeup of those areas, you can use the data to better understand voting behavior.


82 posted on 02/26/2010 8:30:21 PM PST by rustbucket
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