Posted on 02/24/2010 2:11:33 PM PST by neverdem
“it does not expect it to reach a hugely different conclusion about the impact of global warming.”
What?! You mean, we’re suppose to trust these yokels even though they’ll come to the same conclusion about global warming as the fraudsters?!
So much for drawing a conclusion from the data.
Sorry fraudsters...you can’t re-light this candle...it’s out.
And here's the foregone conclusion: " . . . does not expect it to reach a hugely different conclusion about the impact of global warming. "
Of course, what is NOT stated in this article is that the CRU claims all the early data has been lost and the only remaining data is the massaged data. Thus, they are starting with tainted data and can only expect to arrive at a tainted conclusion. The fact that they neglect to mention this problem guarantees that the conclusion cited above is the one which will be reached.
Q.E.D.
Exactly. The climate data has been so screwed up because of politics we don’t know who is on first. This group apparently thinks the same way and are starting all over again. Of course our dimoKKKRAT Congress and Obama is still going full speed as if nothing has happened.
They can analyze the data 100 more times if they want to; it's still worthless. For all intents and purposes, a truly accurate and reliable long term temperature data set doesn't even exist.
150 years of data... hmmmm
just a fart in the earth’s carbon footprint...
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They’ve done to irreplaceable weather data what Obama’s mentors did to his life history. That ought to be a crime of some kind.
Urbanization effects could, in principle, be tracked.
“Let us construct bigger and better lies to steal your freedom with”.
LLS
“But the reassessment by an international group of experts will be seen by many as a tacit admission that its previous reports have been tainted by its association with the University of East Anglia’s disgraced Climatic Research Unit.”
Anything, or any person, associated with the UN is disgraced.
Going forward, I agree they could, but I don’t see how they can accurately correct contaminated data from the past.
If they have maps showing how urbanized observation points were at various points in time, they can try to figure out the influence of urbanization.
Yes, why 150 years? Was it warm, medium or cool in 1860?
One of the warmers' favorite starting points for their warming trend graphs is the 1970s since that was the end of 30 years of cooling, so their warming trend graphs have that hockey stick look about them.
On the other hand, if they start their warming trend graphs in 1934 the graph ends in 2009 at almost exactly where it started in 1934.
It's much harder to sell $Trillions in new taxes and government control over every aspect of the people's lives when the graph doesn't show a lick of warming.
Although they have some recorded temperatures going back to 1790s from some places, not many existed before the 1860s. You have to rely on proxy data from tree rings, ice cores, sediment, etc., before that.
We wouldn't want to let the whole picture get in our way. We wouldn't want to examine how those Vikings caused globel warming running around in their SUV’s - or was it gas guzzling Viking Ships?
the History Channel had an excellent movie a few years ago: The Little Ice Age - which, curiously, seems to have disappeared off their web site??? The DVD has been discontinued by History but some can still be found on Amazon. (I just ordered the book version along with the book “The Long Summer” which chronicles the period just preceding the Little Ice Age. VHS tapes are gone, DVD’s will change to a newer version - but books will be books for decades and decades.)
There are some snippets of The Little Ice age on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpZqAPmW6d0
and remember 30 years ago the politicians and scientist were panicking us with the fast encroaching and catastrophic ice age - starvation in 10 years...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttLBqB0qDko&NR=1&feature=fvwp
below: the sun TODAY - one tiny sunspot - sunspot activity has coincided with warming/cooling trends for millenia. We have had an unusual - and disheartening - lack of sunspot for the past few years...
http://spaceweather.com/images2010/24feb10/midi512_blank.gif?PHPSESSID=o0dfsj22gsfjsp32ct9rdblcq5
They know that. The Met office just wants to announce that the unfortunate (but minor) problems with their data have been resolved. Everything is fine now. Please stop pestering us to support our claims with verifiable evidence.
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