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To: Kaslin

Libertarians need to understand that you cannot have liberty without first having a strong national government. Too often they seem to think liberty can exist in a vacum. I’ve always considered myself a libertarian nationalist. I want a strong and agressive foreign and defense policy, but the maximum amount of liberty practical at home.


9 posted on 02/24/2010 4:59:36 AM PST by Hugin (Remember the first rule of gunfighting...have a gun..-- Col. Jeff Cooper)
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To: Hugin

A “strong national government” is the antithesis of liberty. The Founders clearly understood that which is why they attempted to limit the powers granted to the national gov’t to those enumerated in the Constitution. No, you can’t have liberty in a vacuum; it must be preserved at the state and local level from encroachment by the national gov’t. To the extent that you have an agressive foreign policy, you always compromise liberty at home. History clearly demonstrates an inverse relationship between agressive foreign intervention and liberty enjoyed at home.


16 posted on 02/24/2010 5:32:51 AM PST by glide625 (We wouldn't find ourselves ensnared by the Evil One if we weren't nibbling at his bait!)
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To: Hugin
you cannot have liberty without first having a strong national government.

lol.

21 posted on 02/24/2010 5:59:13 AM PST by Huck (Q: How can you tell a party is in the majority? A: They're complaining about the fillibuster.)
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To: Hugin
I tend to agree with you. I want a foreign policy that the left would call “arrogant”, but at home I'm enough of a redneck survivalist that I get nervous when a police cruiser drives by the house. I sometimes joke that I would be an anarchist if I could set aside my nationalism.

The problem I have with many modern conservatives is that they are content to leave the government behemoth in place that we have had since the 1970s as long as we don't make it bigger. I want Barry Goldwater style locking the doors on at least half of the Federal bureaucratic offices currently in existence.

If the Constitution doesn't explicitly permit the Federal government to do it, I don't want them to do it.

Perhaps turning back the clock isn't reasonable or realistic but that's what I want.

25 posted on 02/24/2010 6:10:30 AM PST by lonelawyer (Check out Ward of the Court in AOL Journals)
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To: Hugin
I lifted the following some years ago from a freeper:

"There can be no happiness without liberty, no liberty without constitutionalism, no constitutionalism without morality and none of the above without stability and order."

31 posted on 02/24/2010 9:48:36 AM PST by Jacquerie (Support and defend our Beloved Constitution.)
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To: Hugin
Libertarians need to understand that you cannot have liberty without first having a strong national government.

nuts!

35 posted on 02/24/2010 4:13:40 PM PST by Theophilus (Shall the throne of iniquity have fellowship with thee, which frameth mischief by a law?)
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To: Hugin

“Libertarians need to understand that you cannot have liberty without first having a strong national government.”

Liberaltarians would rather have all drugs legalized than have a strong military.


43 posted on 02/25/2010 7:23:42 AM PST by Grunthor (The more people I meet, the more I love my dogs.)
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