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To: presidio9
...but the two political philosophies are diametrically opposed on several key issues, including the right to life, military spending, and drug legalization.

Drug legalization, yes. Check out the Libertarians for Life website at http://www.l4l.org/. I don't think your characterization on military spending is accurate. Libertarians do not oppose wars in self-defense. They just oppose initiating wars.

22 posted on 02/22/2010 6:42:12 PM PST by JimWayne
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To: JimWayne

” Libertarians do not oppose wars in self-defense. They just oppose initiating wars. “

fact: We didnt initiate 9/11, but Ron Paul and Libertarians still opposed going to Afghanistan.
This may be why 9/11 trutherism is popular with Paul-ites, a way to deflect from the reality that we were attacked.


38 posted on 02/22/2010 7:01:07 PM PST by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: JimWayne; presidio9

Check out the Libertarians for Life website at http://www.l4l.org/. “

Fact: There are prolife Democrats too, but that doesnt represent the party ... only the GOP has pro-life planks in the platform.


39 posted on 02/22/2010 7:02:22 PM PST by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: JimWayne
Thank you. It's nice reading a lil bit of clear-headed sanity on this thread. :-)

The PaulHaters can get quite vulgar & hot under the collar, can't they? I read one comment by a PaulHater over @ biggovernment.com that said if Rep. Paul wins the GOP nomination for Prez, they would vote for Obama "just for spite!".

42 posted on 02/22/2010 7:08:57 PM PST by ChrisInAR (You gotta let it out, Captain!)
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To: JimWayne
Drug legalization, yes. Check out the Libertarians for Life website at http://www.l4l.org/. I don't think your characterization on military spending is accurate. Libertarians do not oppose wars in self-defense. They just oppose initiating wars.

Please don't waste my time trying to defend an idiotic political philosophy that has never appealed to more than 2% of the adult (and I use that term charitably) population. I was aware of all the arguments for and against libertarianism before you even heard the term. I just think these arguments have no place on a Conservative website. We take our cues from Ronald Reagan here, and his presidency was actively opposed to libertarianism.

However, since you brought it up, liberaltarians in general overwhelmingly support a woman's so-called "right" to choose. Paul is not a member, but he has spoken for Liberaltarians For Life. His official positions are that he personally opposes abortion, and he would like to see Roe V Wade overturned. If it goes to the states, and some states legalize abortion, he will presumably support them. That would be consistent with liberaltarian philosophy. His voting record on this issue is all over the place, until you see the libertarian pattern that is clearly more concerned with government spending and restrictions than it is with human life. He did vote against partial birth abortions, and I give him credit for that. He also voted against laws that made it a crime to harm a fetus during another crime, and "no" on parental notification. The National Right To Life Committee gives him a mixed record (56% out of a possible 100%). He says that he believes life begins a conception. Personally, I have an even lower regard for a person who accepts that an individual life exists, and then fails to do everything in his power to protect that helpless life. Or even acts AGAINST it in some circumstances.

The libertarian opposition to wars that are not in "self-defense" is convenient at best. Cowardice is more accurate. For example, libertarians and religious pacifists were the only ones who opposed war with Japan in 1941. The current war has always been one against radical Islam. We were attacked first, and the different theatres are merely small parts of a larger conflict that was expected to continue for, perhaps, generations when it started. Some people chose not to listen when President Bush laid it out in 2001. Now they are engaging in revisionist history.

I missed your point about Drug Legalization.

46 posted on 02/22/2010 7:15:14 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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