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Buffett's Partner: 'It's Over' for U.S. Economy
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Posted on 02/22/2010 1:13:43 PM PST by cycle of discernment

Buffett's Partner: 'It's Over' for U.S. Economy

Monday, 22 Feb 2010 11:42 AM By: Dan Weil

Charlie Munger, Warren Buffett’s longtime business partner in Berkshire Hathaway, warns in a new column that the U.S. economic empire is crumbling before our eyes, thanks to federal debt and poor planning.

In an article penned for Slate.com, Munger uses the form of a parable to explain how Wall Street’s love affair with gambling has destroyed America’s Main Street.

The article leads with this headline: “Basically, It’s Over.”

The Berkshire Hathaway vice chairman describes the economic history of Basicland, which happens to match U.S. history.

Early in its history, debt is unknown except for home mortgages and some consumer loans, and people live within their means. Speculation is discouraged, and commodities markets are small and tightly regulated.

Under this rational system, economic growth skips merrily along at a steady 3 percent, Munger explains.

Taxes are limited and pay for only “essential services” like fire protection, courts, and defense. Most taxes are collected on imports, and government spending matches that tax income. Debt via government bonds is limited.

Then things take a turn for the worse.

“The extreme prosperity of Basicland had created a peculiar outcome: As their affluence and leisure time grew, Basicland's citizens more and more whiled away their time in the excitement of casino gambling,” Munger writes.

Financial services soon grow to account for too big a portion of the economy, Munger says.

“The winnings of the casinos eventually amounted to 25 percent of Basicland's GDP, while 22 percent of all employee earnings in Basicland were paid to persons employed by the casinos, many of whom were engineers needed elsewhere.”

Then, a shock: Imported energy costs rise, and low-cost labor competition from abroad appears, Munger writes.

“Suddenly Basicland had to come up with 30 percent of its GDP every year, in foreign currency, to pay its creditors,” Munger writes.

The U.S. deficit — just the gap between spending and income in one year — is projected to hit $1.6 trillion in 2010. Total debt is project to exceed 100 percent of GDP starting in 2011.

In the parable, Munger strongly suggests that the United States take seriously the campaign of Reagan-era Fed Chairman Paul Volcker, who wants the big banks to cease pretending to be banks if they expect the freedom to trade securities on the side.

“He suggested that Basicland should strongly discourage casino gambling, partly through a complete ban on the trading in financial derivatives, and it should encourage former casino employees — and former casino patrons — to produce and sell items that foreigners were willing to buy,” Munger writes.

As the parable ends, none of the politicians listen, and Basicland turned into “Sorrowland,” Munger concludes.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bhoeconomy; democrats; economy; fourth100day; munger; warrenbuffett
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1 posted on 02/22/2010 1:13:43 PM PST by cycle of discernment
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To: cycle of discernment

Buffett makes it official the left and Soros have been victorious destroying the economy!


2 posted on 02/22/2010 1:15:02 PM PST by GeronL (Political Philosophy: I Own Me (yep, boiled down to 6 letters))
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To: cycle of discernment

Let’s see, spend more than you take in is a problem.


3 posted on 02/22/2010 1:15:21 PM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: cycle of discernment

For all you financial people out there...what is going to happen when almost every country goes broke?

How do we get out of this mess, not just us but most of the whole world.


4 posted on 02/22/2010 1:17:29 PM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: cycle of discernment

Buffet (and his partner) lean left themselves. Slate magazine is a liberal rag. The article pointedly omits that the GOVERNMENT needs to stop spending & borrowing, and instead points it’s finger at the financial sector. The place described is more like “Fantasyland”, or “Liberaland”.


5 posted on 02/22/2010 1:17:55 PM PST by jdsteel (CONGRESS: Take it again in twenty ten.)
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To: cycle of discernment
Buffett's Partner: 'It's Over' for U.S. Economy

Didn't you guys back Obama when he was running last year?So how is all of that Hope & Change working out for you? And how much did Soros pay you guys to destroy the US?
6 posted on 02/22/2010 1:18:32 PM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: GeronL

Somehow, I don’t think you can blame Soros for everything. Or even “the left” for that matter. The last few Republican presidents have a lousy record on government spending.


7 posted on 02/22/2010 1:19:50 PM PST by dr_who
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To: cycle of discernment

I shy away from Newsmax products, which this is.


8 posted on 02/22/2010 1:20:58 PM PST by Misterioso (To deal with men by force is as impractical as to deal with nature by persuasion. -- Ayn Rand)
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To: GeronL

Munger, his partner of 40 years, makes it official. Buffett, the idiot savant, backed Obama all the way.


9 posted on 02/22/2010 1:21:08 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: GeronL

They are realizing billionairs are not allowed in a Communist State. I wonder when the Trial Lawyers will figure out they are not needed in Communism.


10 posted on 02/22/2010 1:23:35 PM PST by screaminsunshine
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To: dr_who

The big ticket items were passed and put on autopilot by leftwingers.


11 posted on 02/22/2010 1:24:07 PM PST by qwertypie
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To: GeronL

Buffett is a stinking lefty who loves Obama. I have no idea why Munger still does business with him.


12 posted on 02/22/2010 1:24:39 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: cycle of discernment

Could have something to do with the asshat Buffet supported for POTUS.


13 posted on 02/22/2010 1:25:21 PM PST by ontap
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To: cycle of discernment

It is hard to figure out who is the more evil between the government and some parts of the financial industry, both need to be reigned in.


14 posted on 02/22/2010 1:26:30 PM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: cycle of discernment

...so a bunch of Wall Street Billionaire libs are blaming Wall Street types (themselves excluded) for our economic woes.

Why are we going down the crapper? Because the very people responsible for this (the left) have run the system in to the ground and now blaming strawmen.

Sucks that they’re going to get away with it. :(


15 posted on 02/22/2010 1:27:13 PM PST by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: cycle of discernment

“Then, a shock: Imported energy costs rise, and low-cost labor competition from abroad appears, Munger writes.”

Munger’s stinking filthy pla Buffett supports Omaba and Saudis destroying us.

We have the energy here to be the wealthiest country in the world. People are so stupid in this country.


16 posted on 02/22/2010 1:27:42 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: jdsteel

“Buffet (and his partner) lean left themselves.”

It certainly doesn’t help to have Buffett hop on the bandwagon to tax the rich more. Part of the reason spending is out of control is that progressives imagine that all we need to do is increase taxes on the rich and all our financial woes will melt away.


17 posted on 02/22/2010 1:27:58 PM PST by DrC
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To: dr_who
The last few Republican presidents have a lousy record on government spending.

Hell the last few Republican Presidents combined don't equal what obama has done in a year!

18 posted on 02/22/2010 1:29:43 PM PST by pgkdan (I miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: cycle of discernment

Out of every $100 produced by Americans, the government takes away $45.

And he thinks the biggest problem in Basicland is proprietary trading operations by banks?


19 posted on 02/22/2010 1:31:08 PM PST by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: cycle of discernment
...and it should encourage former casino employees — and former casino patrons — to produce and sell items that foreigners were willing to buy,” Munger writes.

Oh, like automobiles? Ooops. Outsourced.

Like cell phones? Ooops, Outsourced.

Like Computers, circuit boards, resistors, transistors, harddrives, read-write heads, LCD's, and flat screens (ALL invented here...) ? OOOOOPS. Outsourced.

Like IPhones, IPods, MP3 players, and other smartphones? Ooops...outsourced.

Like Jumbo jets and jet engines? Ooooops, outsourced.

And soon... space boosters to orbit and beyond... outsourced to Russia???

20 posted on 02/22/2010 1:31:10 PM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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