[Sopater]

The "primordial soup" theory does not fall on it's lack of merit because pseudoscientists have propped it as their "best guess" for the origin of life on our planet.

Only when a "better guess" comes along are these pseudoscientists willing to expose the weakness of the initial theory in order to somehow add credence to their newest one.

"The reason that all organisms are chemiosmotic today is simply that they inherited it from the very time and place that the first cells evolved -- and they could not have evolved without it," said Martin.

Yeah? Well, just remember that you said that.

[Touch Not the Cat]

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No one should ever take these types of “theories” seriously.
It should never be confused with science which is verifiable and practical.

[Zakeet]

[Mr Rogers]

If this new proposal is new, why is it on the Biology DVDs I bought for my daughter two years ago?

[onedoug]

I was watching some show on guys trying to synthesize life the other day, and how they’re oh, so close to doing it. But it strikes me that it’s an equation, and that one must realize what it’s other side is as well. I’d be pretty suprised if they could read the mind of God. Not that they ncessarily couldn’t, but that they won’t.

[tlb]

So the new theory is the soup kettle is heated and stirred by deep underwater underwater vents. Ok, fine.

If the new line of reasoning is correct the evolutionary principle seems to remain intact, but cooked in a different kitchen. And if not correct, we are back where we started. What fundamentally has changed by this suggested fine-tuning of evolutionary theory ?

[HerrBlucher]

Primordial soup, LOL! Everyone knows it was clam chowder.

[dblshot]

Power, I need more power!

[count-your-change]

Sopater, Science said the soup scene science seemed settled so now the soup has soured?

[SeaHawkFan]

It wasn’t that long ago when the evowackos on FR tried to claim that the whole primordial soup/abiogenesis was never a part of the evolutional model.

Now they admit it? Kind of hard to deny what everyone over the age of about forty (and maybe younger) was told in school back in the day.

[TexasFreeper2009]

lol

These people are idiots.

If life just happened to *POP* into existence from gases or soup or whatever wacky theory they have this year that doesn't involve God ... then it should be REAL EASY repeat the process in a lab right?

Oh they can't ... SHOCKING!

/s

[SeaHawkFan]

This new “explanation” is no better than the primordial soup one.

[Verginius Rufus]

"All organisms are chemiosmotic today."

So I've been chemiosmotic all my life and didn't know it until now? I feel like the guy in Moliere who discovers he's been speaking prose all his life.

Campbell's Soup isn't going to be happy about something else William Martin said: "But soup has no capacity for producing the energy vital for life."

[scoobysnak71]

Geesh. If you REALLY want to know how life was created, just ask someone that was there.

[AmishDude]

I’m confused. If you didn’t believe the primordial soup theory then you were an ignorant anti-science dolt.

You’re right, it’s almost as if scientists use the language of metaphysical certainty when they’re doing little more than a wild guess.

Only math has proof. The rest are just monkeys at typewriters.

[reagan_fanatic]

"No soup for you!"

[campaignPete R-CT]

Only when a "better guess" comes along are these pseudoscientists willing to expose the weakness of the initial theory

NOT TRUE. The reason these scientists are undertaking this research is because they were convinced that the current thinking has serious flaws. You haven't heard of this skepticism is because you aren't involved in this field.

They also tend not to announce everything that they are thinking as the work is ongoing ... lest they draw competitors in who publish findings (before they themselves are able to).

[DesertSapper]

Primordial "soup"?

Why not ... bisque, borscht, bouillabaisse, bouillon, broth, chowder, cock-a-leekie, consommé, gazpacho, gumbo, julienne, minestrone, mulligatawny, potage, Scotch broth, or vichyssoise???

[metmom]

Color me not surprised.

For all creationists were mocked, belittled, and derided for not accepting current scientific consensus as truth and fact, they were exonerated in the end.

As expected, this theory goes in the dustbin of obsolete scientific theories while they scrabble to find another one which explains life on earth sans God.

[wendy1946]

These guys and/or anybody else with similar thoughts at least have testable ideas; they need to take whatever they think was involved in the way of chemistry and create some sterile test environment with hot vents and those chemicals in a lab and see if they can come up with simple life forms.

Moreover they should provide the public with a way to put down bets as to which way it turns out...

[editor-surveyor]

"Textbooks have it that life arose from organic soup and that the first cells grew by fermenting these organics..."

Notable that they start life from the remains of.......Life?

This is like the old desert emergency water kit: Drop this pill into a jar of water.... oops!