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ANOTHER Nail in the Global Warming Coffin

Posted on 02/21/2010 8:22:14 PM PST by Starman417

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To: PGalt

Shhhh.

I was always worried to put that on there. Nobody cares. The Senate Judiciary Committee didn’t.


21 posted on 02/21/2010 8:56:18 PM PST by goseminoles
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To: goseminoles

Thanks for being here. “Truthful” BUMP!


22 posted on 02/21/2010 9:00:38 PM PST by PGalt
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To: goseminoles

The glaciers have been melting since the end of the last glacial period some 13,000 years ago...


23 posted on 02/21/2010 9:06:20 PM PST by DB
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To: Starman417
Coffins mean nothing. This beast needs a stake through the heart.
24 posted on 02/21/2010 9:13:52 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this...)
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To: Starman417
Criminal prosecutions would be a good start...
25 posted on 02/21/2010 9:16:25 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this...)
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To: muawiyah


What that means is sea ice is doomed to turn into sea water at some rate ~ no matter what we do.

This little piece (54 square miles) of the Ross Shelf broke off....ten years ago. It's still at sea and drifting north. The rate of melting has increased editorially during that time.

26 posted on 02/21/2010 9:16:54 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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To: goseminoles
I’ve got to be honest about me feelings on this. -I am slow to jump on the “everything is bs because of 4 bad numbers” bandwagon. -I don’t think global warming is man made. -I think perhaps the climate is warming. a) is warming bad? b) what temperature is. the.earth supposed to be?

That pretty much sums up my attitude, also. I have an open mind about the situation. What bothers so many people with scientific or technical backgrounds who aren't climate specialists are the sneaky tactics, politicization, and squirrely body language that the proponents are engaging in. Standard, whitebread scientists don't hide their work or bully their compatriots; instead, they put everything forward and challenge their equals to blow it to bits or bleed all over it in red ink if they can. Global warming proponents aren't "colleagues", they've behaved like mau-maus.

27 posted on 02/21/2010 9:19:17 PM PST by qwertypie
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To: muawiyah

In fact, there are some 160,000+ glaciers in the world, most of them in Antarctica, and most of them never visited or measured by humankind. In Antarctica there has been little or no “global warming” during the 30 years of the satellite era, and all of the glaciers are doing just fine, as far as we know. In Greenland, some glaciers are advancing, and some retreating. Temperatures in Greenland are in fact 1-2 Celsius degrees lower today than they were in the late 1930s. The Alpine glaciers, as they recede, reveal medieval mountain passes, forests, and even an entire silver-mine that were there in the medieval warm period but were later covered by ice.


28 posted on 02/21/2010 9:21:39 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: qwertypie

There are no “nails in the coffin”. Yet.


29 posted on 02/21/2010 9:23:27 PM PST by goseminoles
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To: DB
Just saw a National Geographic program on the Mayan "the world ends in 2012" prediction, and at the end, a scientist and the guy checking out the Mayan prediction went to a place (maybe in South America, but not sure)where a giant glacier has been receding, and at the edge of the glacier they found very well-preserved plant remains, suggesting that 5,200 years ago this area experienced a VERY sudden change in temperature from warm to cold. The scientist said this sudden climate change would have profoundly affected the cultures of those civilzations that experienced it, including the Mayans, and that in many ancient writings mention is made of such an event taking place 5200 years ago.

So--what I got from this scientist is that 5200 years ago, the world suffered a dramatic onset of "global cooling".

Obviously brought about by human disregard for the welfare of the planet, right? Never mind that this HAD to have been preceded by a period of global warming!

And then, at the end of the show, NG just HAD TO issue the obligatory dire warnings about how all the melting glaciers and rises in sea-level (caused, of course, by man-made global warming) might just mean the end of the world for us! Can they not see the contradiction their own program reveals? OI!

30 posted on 02/21/2010 9:45:17 PM PST by milagro
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To: Starman417
They should have just asked Dr. Nils-Axel Morner - head of the Paleogeophysics and Geodynamics department at Stockholm University in Sweden.

Claim That Sea Level Is Rising Is a Total Fraud

Excellent five page article knocks the manatee poop out of "rising sea levels."

31 posted on 02/21/2010 10:17:56 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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To: Starman417; markomalley; Carlucci; grey_whiskers; meyer; WL-law; Para-Ord.45; Desdemona; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

32 posted on 02/22/2010 3:37:27 AM PST by steelyourfaith (FReepers were opposed to Obama even before it was cool to be against Obama.)
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To: DennisR

Measurement accuracy and error bounds are one of the big hidden secrets of the GW Alarmists. Anyone with any sort of background at all in science/engineering who has thought about this for more than 5 minutes realizes what a joke many of these numbers are.


33 posted on 02/22/2010 4:49:02 AM PST by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: DB

“The glaciers” is the question. Many glaciers have come into existence since the end of the last major glaciation in the current ice age (the one we are still in). Some glaciers have disappeared.


34 posted on 02/22/2010 4:49:27 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: GeronL
Doesn’t mean its manmade

I've read that the other planets have had a small increase in temperatures at about the same time. Perhaps its that gigantic nuclear furnace in the sky rather than some trace vapor, you think?

35 posted on 02/22/2010 5:12:13 AM PST by Nateman (If liberals aren't screaming you're doing it wrong.)
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To: goseminoles; Starman417; SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; Fred Nerks; steelyourfaith; NormsRevenge; onyx; ..
Well,..we have this also...it was just released...any connection???:

New Paper in Science: Sea level 81,000 years ago was 1 meter higher while CO2 was lower

36 posted on 02/22/2010 5:08:28 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The climate dweebs really need to go outdoors to get some fresh air.


37 posted on 02/22/2010 5:18:16 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: goseminoles

“-I think perhaps the climate is warming.”
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A serious question for you: Why do you think that?


38 posted on 02/22/2010 5:25:48 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: goseminoles; Starman417
SOME glaciers are melting, some are not, some are gaining. Over all there is a gain in ice, not a decrease. Apparently you are a true believer of global warming, AKA climate change. Better start soaking up some real facts and find out the truth. The arctic isn't melting, it's gaining ice

Anyone, and I mean anyone, who believes the planet is warming had better submit

A: Absolute proof of what the average mean temp of the earth should be so we will know what the base line should be held at.

B: Absolute proof that the planet has actually warmed from this temp and has never gone over that temp in the known history of the planet.

C: In submitting these proofs you cannot leave out the Medieval warming period, it must be included in your proofs, since it did exist.

Those three things are a good start, when you have the proof please submit all of your findings and all data used to reach your conclusions. This data must be verifiable. Thanks for your co-operation.

39 posted on 02/22/2010 5:32:05 PM PST by calex59
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To: onyx
You have to stay inside to run the computers for modeling...and the more you do it...the more it feels like the real thing...

You usually see that statement relative to more ..human activities...

But these scientists believe in their Models ....

40 posted on 02/22/2010 6:23:33 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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